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To: ClearCase_guy
They passed a law saying that it's OK to discuss science in a science class?

And the Evolutionists are upset? That's rich.

If anyone believes that this law was passed to promote science they are deluding themselves and lying to us.

This law was passed to promote religion, and more specifically, a narrow fundamentalist view of religion.

But what happens when the much vaunted "critical analysis" is applied to the claims of intelligent design, creation "science" and all the rest of the disguises under which fundamentalists have tried to promote their beliefs?

Teachers will be free to expose these efforts for the dishonest propaganda devices they really are, without fear of reprisals!

The law of unintended consequences strikes again.

5 posted on 07/11/2008 8:15:43 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

This law was passed to promote religion, and more specifically, a narrow fundamentalist view of religion.

Thats bull. Prove it.


7 posted on 07/11/2008 8:21:17 AM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: Coyoteman
the legislation also includes a proscription against its misuse "to promote any religious doctrine, promote discrimination for or against a particular set of religious beliefs, or promote discrimination for or against religion or nonreligion."

I'd be happy if just this part was enforced, regardless of the teaching of evo or ID.

Too much Secular Humanism and Atheism being taught in schools these days under the guise of "science".

9 posted on 07/11/2008 8:23:03 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Coyoteman
You said: "This law was passed to promote religion"

Perhaps you missed this summation:

protects the right of teachers and administrators "to create and foster an environment within public elementary and secondary schools that promotes critical thinking skills, logical analysis, and open and objective discussion of scientific theories

And perhaps you also missed the proviso specially stating that religion was not to be discussed as a result of this law.

You also said:"Teachers will be free to expose these efforts for the dishonest propaganda devices they really are, without fear of reprisals!"

A primary reason why school teachers do not discuss criticisms of Evolution is because people tend to find the criticisms quite convincing. When the pros and cons are both discussed, Evolution loses. Now, you can say that's because people are fools and do not understand the wonders of science, but when scientists lay out their theory and cannot explain the theory in a convincing way, it says something about the theory.

Richard Feynman said that if science is well understood, then it can be explained to a child. But he was talking about Physics. That's real science. Evolution is not in the same league as Physics.

13 posted on 07/11/2008 8:25:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: Coyoteman
"Not a single state senator voted against the Science Education Act and just three of 97 state representatives opposed it—this despite strong public relations campaigns condemning the legislation from several high-profile organizations and individuals. "

The Great State of Louisiana just told you what you can do with your "so-called" science.

And I applaud them for it.

16 posted on 07/11/2008 8:26:25 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Coyoteman

‘This law was passed to promote religion, and more specifically, a narrow fundamentalist view of religion.’

Your opinion.

There are many non-fundamentalists who welcome discussion and the free exchange of ideas...I’m one of them.

The promotion of critical discussions of controversial topics is a good thing.


18 posted on 07/11/2008 8:27:18 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Coyoteman
But what happens when the much vaunted "critical analysis" is applied to the claims of intelligent design, creation "science" and all the rest of the disguises under which fundamentalists have tried to promote their beliefs? Teachers will be free to expose these efforts for the dishonest propaganda devices they really are, without fear of reprisals!

Hmm. Don't teachers do that now? And what's a 'fundamentalist' in your mind?

22 posted on 07/11/2008 8:31:24 AM PDT by polymuser (Those who believe in something eventually prevail over those who believe in nothing.)
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To: Coyoteman
This law was passed to promote religion, and more specifically, a narrow fundamentalist view of religion.

Sources? Anything at all that you can site to back up your statement?

105 posted on 07/11/2008 2:11:20 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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