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McCain Adviser Refers to ‘Nation of Whiners’ (No drilling allowed but whine about gas prices)
NY Times ^ | 7/11/2008 | MICHAEL COOPER

Posted on 07/11/2008 5:58:38 AM PDT by tobyhill

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To: tobyhill
Drilling is good, especially for lower gas prices.

Obama: “We need somebody to actually solve the economy.”

Another example of Obama sounding dumb without his teleprompter.

41 posted on 07/11/2008 7:37:26 AM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: norwaypinesavage

You are correct!


42 posted on 07/11/2008 7:41:18 AM PDT by griswold3 (Al qaeda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: tobyhill
My sister-in-law was whining the other day because it costs her daughter, who works for a school district, $65/month for health benefits!

She thinks that because her son-in-law, who works for a different school district, doesn't have to pay anything at all for his benefits, the daughter shouldn't have to pay anything either. "It isn't faaaiirrrr!!!"

I mentioned to her that my health insurance costs me $614/month - that shut her up.

43 posted on 07/11/2008 7:49:11 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: tobyhill

A nation full of BITTER WHINERS.


44 posted on 07/11/2008 7:55:07 AM PDT by RedCobra (s)
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To: roses of sharon; TomGuy
Wow, you should run for office....as a Democrat, lol.

Wow, very helpful post. Enlighten us more with your wisdom.

After reading Phil Gramm's complete quote in context I see his point, but it's still a huge generalization. It's interesting how people on this site are so patriotic, but have so little faith in Americans.

Sorry to bust everyone's superiority bubble, but the majority of people in this country get up every morning and just go do their jobs. American workers are the most productive in the world.

Those same Americans heard the Republican campaign calling them whiners this morning - thanks to the media repeating only the "nation of whiners" part of Phil's quote. Phil should have known that would happen.

The Republicans can ill afford unforced errors like this.

Fletcher J

45 posted on 07/11/2008 7:56:44 AM PDT by Fletcher J
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To: roses of sharon
Wow, you should run for office....as a Democrat, lol.

Well, more Dems will win this November than Pubbies. That says something for the state of affairs of the Nation and of the Republican Party.

If enough conservative Dems get elected (06, 08, 10, 12), they might be able to move the Nation back to the right. The Pubbies sure squandered their opportunity -- the first in 40 years. It is doubtful they will get another chance for another 40 years.
46 posted on 07/11/2008 8:12:30 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: traderrob6

I totally agree with what he said. I don’t know what the brohaha is all about.

America as a whole have become a bunch of whiners. What he said was true.


47 posted on 07/11/2008 8:15:20 AM PDT by waxer1 (What exactly is meant by "we are going to take our country back")
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To: Fletcher J
Enlighten us more with your wisdom.

Thanks! I thought it was a spot-on Democrat campaign speech, especially the part about REPUBLICAN fat-cat golfers!

Since the Dims have no fat-cats, never golf, only want Americans to earn a good salary, and to KEEP what they earn by keeping their taxes low! lol
48 posted on 07/11/2008 8:15:51 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: CatherinePPP
It was kind of a dumb thing to say

O'Bama says stupid things every day and they cheer. Anybody else stupidly says true things and pays.

49 posted on 07/11/2008 8:17:59 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: tobyhill

Graham is exactly right. dims and the MSM make consumers believe times are bad to win elections. Look at ‘92, and again in ‘00.


50 posted on 07/11/2008 8:18:06 AM PDT by weezel
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7

It’s not having your head in the sand, and Graham was right.

The economy is not in the best of health, listening to the Dems and the MSM, though, you would think that we were in a time that made the Great Depression look like the high life. How many times in the last four years have we heard “the worst economy ever”?

The economy isn’t healthy right now. Graham is right though, we are not in a monetary recession. The average citizen IS in a mental recession from the incessant drum beat of bad news they hear from supposedly “unbiased” reporters and politicians that hunger for nothing but power.

He is also correct in that there is a large portion of this country that are nothing but whiners. They will suckle off the government teet; taking money out of my pocket in the porcess. They do nothing to fix the problems and will complain loudly and often about how hard life is for them. Then you have Liberal pols on both sides of the aisle that do ZERO to put anything into our economy, or society. All they do is take. They take our money and they take our freedoms on a daily basis. They then turn around and bitch and moan about everything under the sun from the types of light bulbs I use to the War on Radical islam.

Prices are high. If one’s family had been living within their means, the increase is a burden, but it is far from a back breaking situation. How much consumer debt does your average US citizen carry? How much savings do they have in the bank? If these people are having a hard time now, then wait until B. Hussein Obama is president. His stated economic goals will bankrupt this country and drive us into a real recession; one that I think will make the late 70s look like child’s play. Then, these people will see true hardships.


51 posted on 07/11/2008 8:18:14 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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Has there ever been such a poor choice for the American public as Obama and McCain in the history of presidential elections?

They seem to be more pc than a gay aboriginal Muslim.

52 posted on 07/11/2008 8:18:59 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: TomGuy

Yep, modern day Americans have been voting for big government for decades, we are a nation of idiot whiners.


53 posted on 07/11/2008 8:20:29 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: LottieDah

1.46 when Bush took office? Almost 8 years ago? It was about 2 bucks when dims took congress, less than 2 years ago.ALSO, groceries were 100 bucks a month cheaper, and we were setting a record for the longest job expansion in history, when dims got congress back. Less than 2 years later, we are losing jobs again.


54 posted on 07/11/2008 8:21:25 AM PDT by weezel
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To: alicewonders

Phil Gramm is Right!
Despite what the MSM say, this country is NOT IN RECESSION!
Recession is defined as zero or negative economic growth. We have neither; our economy simply isn’t growing as FAST as it has at other times, but we still have positive growth!

Yes, gas prices are terrible, and they can eventually cause a stoppage of growth and even shut down many industries, if they don’t find ways to adapt. However, I’m surprised how resilient our economy has been despite the crisis, and unemployment is still in the “structural unemployment” percentage range. (For those who don’t remember their macroeconomics: structural unemployment is the normal percent of unemployment consisting of new workers just entering the workforce, people changing jobs, those out of work due to injury, etc.)


55 posted on 07/11/2008 8:22:15 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: weezel

Wait till Hussein takes office, it will rain puppies for the next 8 years.

Just like with Clinton.


56 posted on 07/11/2008 8:23:11 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: Turbo Pig

The poorest American still has it better than about 90% of the rest of the world’s population.


57 posted on 07/11/2008 8:26:55 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: weezel

You are correct. People forget that when the Dims took office the price of oil and food started to skyrocket, people are losing their homes and jobs. Way to go Dims!


58 posted on 07/11/2008 8:29:53 AM PDT by LottieDah (Democrats and liberals never fail to disappoint.)
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To: tobyhill

>> ... one of his top economic advisers was quoted Thursday as saying that the United States was only in a “mental recession” and that it had become a “nation of whiners.”

Its a reasonable point, I suppose — but an imprudent phrasing. You don’t generally court voters by calling them “whiners”. You offer sympathy for plight, correctly level blame at the liberalism, and offer conservative solutions to problems.

H


59 posted on 07/11/2008 8:37:05 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor (Jack Bauer for President '08 -- All the world's terrorists hate him. Sounds like a fair fight.)
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To: tobyhill

60 posted on 07/11/2008 9:47:23 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, youÂ’ve got it made." Groucho Marx)
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