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What if we threw out all the illegal immigrants?
PMSNBC ^ | July 2, 2008 | Shirley Skeel

Posted on 07/09/2008 4:05:30 AM PDT by RU88

At least 12 million illegal immigrants live in the U.S. Most pick crops, wash dishes, build houses, cut lawns and do other jobs for between $6 and $15 an hour. They make up about 5% of the total U.S. work force. But …

What if we threw them all out?

Lettuce and strawberries would rot in the fields. Dirty dishes would pile up in restaurants. Thousands of farmers and builders would go bust. Predator aircraft drones would prowl the Mexican border. And chunks of Los Angeles and Houston would look like ghost towns.

The biggest losers would be middle-class families with two working parents, living in high-immigrant states such as California, Texas, Florida or New York. Why? They would pay more for food, housing, entertainment and child care as a shortage of low-skilled workers drove up some wages, and therefore, some prices. Meantime, their own pay would remain the same. What's more, the ripple effect of thousands of businesses shrinking or closing for lack of staff might put one of the parents out of a job. Not to mention the garbage collection going to pot and no one to polish the missus' nails.

The winners, for a change, would be the low-skilled unemployed, living just about anywhere -- if they were willing to move. Of the 12 million illegal immigrants, about 8 million are employed, mostly in low-skill jobs. The U.S., meantime, has about 22 million less-educated jobless adults, many of them blacks and legalized Hispanics, according to a 2008 report from the Center for Immigration Studies, a research group based in Washington, D.C.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; mexico
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To: RU88

This is a bunch of hog wash. After WW II Truman deported millions of illegals so our troops coming home would have jobs. After Korea, Eisenhower did the same thing.


21 posted on 07/09/2008 4:38:34 AM PDT by chainsaw ( No racist radical Muslims in the WH)
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To: RU88

Are they still on this? LOL

It’s so worn out like a shoe heal that has a hole in it.


22 posted on 07/09/2008 4:40:09 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: RU88

“What if we threw them all out?”

The murder rate would fall 75% and I’d quit eating lettuce.


23 posted on 07/09/2008 4:41:03 AM PDT by toddlintown (Morons; all of 'em.)
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To: RU88
The biggest losers would be middle-class families with two working parents, living in high-immigrant states such as California, Texas, Florida or New York. Why? They would pay more for food, housing, entertainment and child care as a shortage of low-skilled workers drove up some wages, and therefore, some prices. Meantime, their own pay would remain the same. What's more, the ripple effect of thousands of businesses shrinking or closing for lack of staff might put one of the parents out of a job. Not to mention the garbage collection going to pot and no one to polish the missus' nails.

Oh no! It would be employment Armageddon!

In reality, deporting illegal aliens will be a slow process, and there will be time for employers to shift over to a legal work force, and they can also seek to hire legal alien workers to fill in the gaps if they can't heir enough legal residents to do the work.

On average, illegal aliens also use far more government services than they pay in taxes. The increased costs of having to hire more expensive, legal workers would be more than offset by cost savings to our nation by not having to subsidize so many illegal workers that do not fully support themselves.

There's really no question as to if illegal immigration costs us more than we gain. Illegal immigration is allowed to continue basically unchecked because it has political benefits to big government advocates, and because it does produce finical benefits to some employers that shift much of the expenses of their business to taxpayers.

24 posted on 07/09/2008 4:44:08 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: RU88
What if we threw out all the illegal immigrants?

I'd be shouting Hallelujah and dancing in the street.

25 posted on 07/09/2008 4:44:31 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: GAB-1955
Besides, the work would be done because other people would do the work. Wages might go up, which might increase costs, but compared to the hit on our wallets from fuel, it would be relatively light.

What I have not seen is the thought that the wages would be spent HERE, rather than transferred to Mexico.

26 posted on 07/09/2008 4:45:53 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: GAB-1955
Wages might go up, which might increase costs,

Yep and people who think a zero inflation economy is possible are living in a fantasy world.
27 posted on 07/09/2008 4:46:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: RU88

What a pile of BS. Economy in decline, unemployment rising, simultaneous housing and credit crises...

Get this straight, L$M: There are no longer (if there ever were) jobs Americans won’t do.


28 posted on 07/09/2008 4:46:32 AM PDT by milky
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To: RU88; Jack Black; Gilbo_3; Travis McGee

Shirley is an idgit.........nuff said ? (NOT !)

Right now ALL illegals without a stolen social security card and identity are working in conditions equal too slave labor , under threat from their employers who know they are illegal too rat them out too ICE if they complain or don’t work their asses off for less than minimum wage for the most part ! As well with no benefits at all shy of a cash payment under the table ! The US loses across the board picking up the tab for lost taxes, health care, education of their children. So much for their human rights arguments.

Then and only then does the personal tragedy of those who’s ID’s are stolen and abused at great personal cost over time too their fiscal situation due bad credit, legal fees and possible conflicts too getting future loans and even jobs come into play.

Now too give them legal status IMHO means they get full pay , full benefits, insurance etc and guess who gets too pick up that tab ? America again. Employers will pass that cost on too the consumer. Triple the cost of that lettuce , your landscaping, your home, your dinner out at a restaurant, etc etc .........

< sarcasm> That will make it all better Shirley !< / sarcasm>

I am pro LEGAL immigration and 100% con on anything illegal !

Deport all illegals, stop all foreign aid until international pressure is placed on nations that have no provisions too assist the poor or displaced find employment and education. Go after employers , cities and organizations that support such illegal activity as they are no less a criminal than the person that rapes your daughter, steals your car, rob’s a bank or murders a human !

AND ELECT OR RE-ELECT NO POLIDIOT THAT PANDERS TO SUCH PILES OR PEON CRAP !

Just my opinion .......


29 posted on 07/09/2008 4:48:48 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: toddlintown

The housing construction in southern Arizona has ground almost to a halt. Thousands of illegals have returned to Mexico. Apartment “For Rent” signs proliferate from Douglas in the east to Yuma in the west. And guess what? The world hasn’t come to an end. And lettuce and strawberries by the Mexican truckload are still being driven to US border warehouses.


30 posted on 07/09/2008 4:49:05 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: ClearCase_guy

I am with you. I will deal with it!


31 posted on 07/09/2008 4:49:20 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
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To: RU88
They would pay more for food, housing, entertainment and child care as a shortage of low-skilled workers drove up some wages, and therefore, some prices.

Drove up some wages?!?

These are fellow citizens you're talking about, dumbass!

If our sense of nationhood has fallen so far that we will beggar our fellow citizens so some rich bitch can get a cheap nail job, then we're done.

32 posted on 07/09/2008 4:50:02 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Cut the birth certificate crap! It's the communism, stupid!)
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To: RU88

At least our Fritos would be safe from Banditos.


33 posted on 07/09/2008 4:51:51 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Barack Obama--the first black Jimmy Carter.)
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To: RU88

Keeping up with my policy of zeroing in on a tiny and scarcely relevant detail...

are there really places where the garbage collectors are not well-to-do white people who live in far-better-than-average homes? Because all my garbage collectors have been like that. My oil suppliers, now they’re in the struggling class.

When I was a kid we had a landscaper who was Asian, couldn’t speak a word of English. His home looked like a corner of Versailles, with a storybook style hameau and a man-made lake and trees that cost a dollar a leaf according to my noble parent who’d know. Our neighbor at the time was an obstetrician who was near bankrupt from paying insurance premiums.

How about we round up all these cheap laborers and have them deliver oil and babies instead? So the legal folks could do something more profitable, like picking up trash and weeds.


34 posted on 07/09/2008 4:54:08 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Only a Kennedy between us and tyranny.)
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To: RU88

Isn’t it sweet and endearing how they left all the costs paid by American taxpayers out of the equation? The article is nothing more than Marxist propaganda written on a imbecile level.


35 posted on 07/09/2008 4:54:45 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: cowtowney

Hello, we’re talking illegals, not legals.


36 posted on 07/09/2008 4:58:12 AM PDT by nicola_tesla ("Life is Tough... It's Worse When You're Stupid".... John Wayne)
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To: RU88

One thing this article is portending and suggesting is that our country/nation is only determined by our economy. The people are just replaceable widgets and the cheaper they will work the better. Have we really become so pathetic as to disavow our founding and the blood and toil shed to protect and pass down to us from our ancestors? Do the people we descend from matter so little that we will give it all away for cheap lettuce?


37 posted on 07/09/2008 4:58:29 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: RU88

Who would fund the moving of the lower-class unemployed?


38 posted on 07/09/2008 4:59:45 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: RU88
chunks of Los Angeles and Houston would look like ghost towns.

Real estate buying opportunity!!!

39 posted on 07/09/2008 5:01:34 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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To: RU88
You can't deport 12 million illegals. You can't lock up 12 million illegals.



So, let's deport 1 million and lock up 1 million more.
The rest will get the idea and leave on their own.
40 posted on 07/09/2008 5:02:36 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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