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Metal thieves suspected of toppling cell tower [near Tullahoma, TN]
The Tullahoma News and Guardian ^ | 7/8/2008 | BRIAN JUSTICE

Posted on 07/08/2008 3:01:55 PM PDT by OrangeDaisy

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1 posted on 07/08/2008 3:01:55 PM PDT by OrangeDaisy
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Well, looks like the US is fast becoming another Third World nation. Great job, American leaders and stupid voters!


2 posted on 07/08/2008 3:04:53 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: OrangeDaisy

“Can you hear me now?”


3 posted on 07/08/2008 3:09:40 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: OrangeDaisy

Cellshucking who would’ve thought?


4 posted on 07/08/2008 3:14:38 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for yourself!)
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To: OrangeDaisy

This is so funny:

“The new law also includes materials that dealers may not buy under any circumstances, beginning with anything marked as belonging to telephone or utility companies.

Also on the list are manhole and water meter covers, streetlights, guardrails, traffic lights, street signs and beer kegs. “

Anyone out there have a spare guardrail? lol


5 posted on 07/08/2008 3:16:12 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for yourself!)
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To: OrangeDaisy

How much copper can be on a cell tower? The wires going up for power, ok. But what else?


6 posted on 07/08/2008 3:20:34 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Maelstorm

Crack heads, meth heads and crooked scrap dealers and metal price increases guarantee more of this.


7 posted on 07/08/2008 3:20:55 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Maelstorm

Went to my Fathers grave on Memorial day and most of the flower vases around his grave were missing.


8 posted on 07/08/2008 3:22:00 PM PDT by RS_Rider
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To: Maelstorm

How about a “spare” railroad track, that shouldn’t go with out notice for long? /S


9 posted on 07/08/2008 3:24:40 PM PDT by RS_Rider
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Along with recently unemployed illegal aliens from the construction industry....

I was working in El Paso, and had no less than four to five persons per hour trolling thru the parking lot of my hotel looking for scrap anything, including carpet, wood, pallets, and my bbq grill...

They will steal anything.


10 posted on 07/08/2008 3:27:04 PM PDT by DragonMarine (Capitalism works, but it has to be paid for. (From the halls of Montezuma...)
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To: Red_Devil 232
"How much copper can be on a cell tower? The wires going up for power, ok. But what else?"

Actually, it can run to thousands of pounds. Very little of it is in the form or electrical power line (as you are probably envisioning). Most of it is in the form of the actual transmission lines that service each antenna and, if the sight employs any microwave paths, the wave guide for the microwave path (usually two runs, main and diversity).

If you haven't guessed, I work for a wireless phone company, and while I don't climb the towers myself, I do work with the tower crews and I work with the equipment that is connected to the top. If a tower is "sectorized", i.e., divided into three or even four sectors (rather than omni-directional), you will have a lot of copper lines running up. For instance, one sector will have at least two antennas (sometimes three or four), each one serviced by a line. In our case, we use 1 and 5/8" lines (some use smaller, some use bigger) that have two "tubes" of copper separated by a foam barrier running up the antennas. If we have a four sectored site, with three antennas per sector, that is a total of twelve lines, times the length of the run (sometimes well over 300 ft.) of copper.

This is just a very simplified description of what is actually on a typical tower, but I think you can start to see why it attracts these kinds of thieves. The good news is that they probably didn't get much of it, as likely someone was paged out and dispatched to the sight as soon as service was lost, and it takes longer than you would think to get those lines out of the clips or wire ties that hold them there, even if you are just chopping and stacking.

11 posted on 07/08/2008 3:38:04 PM PDT by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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Them too! If there is any cure it will involve jailing crooked scrap dealers who WILL find a way around the regulations, like shipping stolen metals out of state etc.

Any street person could figure out how to steal metal.

12 posted on 07/08/2008 3:38:48 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Maelstorm
Also on the list are...street signs and beer kegs. “

Years ago, street signs were made of a good grade of aluminum, at least a 1/4" thick.

We'd consume the contents of a keg, then go out and look for street signs, with which we would fashion parts (they call them "billet", now) for our chop/bob motorcycles.

Or did we look for the street signs and then consume the contents of a keg?

Any way, street signs ain't made out of aluminum anymore and the only way to get "billet" stuff for your scoot is to shell out big bucks.

Anyone out there have a spare guardrail? lol

Fortunately, one of these never came into play, in the midst of the sign stealing, keg consuming, bob/chop motorcycle riding activities of my misspent "youth".

13 posted on 07/08/2008 3:40:50 PM PDT by OldSmaj (Death to islam. I am now and will always be, a sworn enemy of all things muslim.)
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To: Pablo64

Wow! Thanks for the great info.


14 posted on 07/08/2008 4:03:50 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: OrangeDaisy

By my estimate this act will net them a maximum of $700. Was that really worth it? They could get 20 years for this. You could get more by swiping a chain from a granny on a subway car.


15 posted on 07/08/2008 4:05:59 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Pablo64

Just curious,what $ loss would you estimate on
a destroyed cell tower?


16 posted on 07/08/2008 4:13:39 PM PDT by Harold Shea (rvn `70 - `71)
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To: OldSmaj

Got an e-mail from my brother a couple months ago, it had graphic photos of some idiot trying to cut down live power lines with bolt cutters. Two went up in a bucket lift with hazmat suits to free the charred body, two others in suits went up in a front end loader bucket to lower the body down.


17 posted on 07/08/2008 4:27:04 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: GingisK

Why? Because some idiots think it’s easier to steal copper than to work?


18 posted on 07/08/2008 4:30:38 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: OrangeDaisy

Scrap sales over $15 at some recycling stations require ID by seller.


19 posted on 07/08/2008 4:33:43 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Harold Shea

The tower alone would be well into 6 figures, then factor in the cost of stacking it, rigging it (just the labor costs) then the materials (the copper, etc.) and you really have quite a sum. Add the lost revenue from the down time of the site and it is definitely not something you would settle in small claims court. I would imagine that the company’s insurance agent is developing a small ulcer about now...


20 posted on 07/08/2008 4:35:02 PM PDT by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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