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Estupido: Juan Hernandez gives dumb advice; McCain takes it
Michelle Malkin.com ^ | 7/07/2008 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 07/07/2008 10:43:36 PM PDT by Oyarsa

Whose idea was it to send John McCain down to Mexico the day before Independence Day and have him grovel for Latino votes south of the border by visiting the Basilica de Guadalupe–a famed Catholic shrine featuring the image of the Virgin of Guadalupe, which most Mexican politicians consider off-limits for campaigning?

According to Frentes Politicos (hat tip - reader Edgar M.), the stunt was the brainchild of none other than McCain’s open-borders Hispanic outreach director and former Mexican cabinet official Juan Hernandez, who apparently survived the big campaign staff shake-up:

(Excerpt) Read more at michellemalkin.com ...


TOPICS: Mexico; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; estupido; estupidonoob; hernandez; hispanicvote; immigrantlist; juanhernandez; littlehitler; madivan; malkin; mccain; pandering; rino; wideawake
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To: Oyarsa

Pretty much everything about you is faulty. From your arrogant “please read blah blah blah” to that gleaming white pedestal that every one can see but you. The snarky little frepmail you sent me last night didn’t raise my opinion of you either. Learn some manners and quit instructing more seasoned FReepers in what you consider proper etiquette. You’re not my mom or my teacher, or a moderator, You are in no position to even request that others read anything before commenting.


81 posted on 07/08/2008 5:21:19 PM PDT by BruceysMom ( My heart is in Baggs)
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To: La Enchiladita
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82 posted on 07/08/2008 5:22:52 PM PDT by don-o (Have you donated to FR? If not, why not?)
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To: don-o
I won’t do it because I don’t care. It’s not even worth the keystrokes.

I'm enjoying your statement that you don't care, yet you cared enough to both make the accusation and to type a reply stating me you would not answer.

I’m enjoying your high and mighty attitude.

What "high and mighty attitude"?

Now, there’s some fun. You’ve already seen that most folks here do not cotton to being preached at, given directions on how to post or talked down to, either; especially by a newbie.

I've noticed people don't agree with my request; and that's fine. But lack of agreement is not license to disrupt.

What I have observed is that those who want to discuss, do so, and can usually defend their positions logically, and those who do not want to discuss, divert.

But, keep digging, pal. This is a good looking hole you’re constructing.

Who is digging?

83 posted on 07/08/2008 5:24:45 PM PDT by Oyarsa
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To: don-o

“It’s a treat to beat your feet in the Mississippi mud.”

Ooh, those boots would destroy that “welcome mat”....oh, well.... C’est la guerre:o)


84 posted on 07/08/2008 5:27:06 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Typical gringa.)
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To: Oyarsa
I'm enjoying your statement that you don't care, yet you cared enough to both make the accusation and to type a reply stating me you would not answer.

I'm a wild and crazy guy. Please observe that I refused to critique your "welcome mat" gambit. I DID stomp around with muddy shoes though. In fact, I'm gonna jump on yer bed with muddy shoes now.

Oh, yes. Congrats on getting the Italians right.

If you would come down to earth, I would explain the "Italians" reference.

85 posted on 07/08/2008 5:29:59 PM PDT by don-o (Have you donated to FR? If not, why not?)
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To: BruceysMom
Pretty much everything about you is faulty.

That's a pretty broad brush from someone who doesn't know me, wouldn't you say?

From your arrogant “please read blah blah blah” to that gleaming white pedestal that every one can see but you.

Please explain how that request is arrogant, and point out exactly what I have said that points to that "gleaming white pedestal that every one can see but you."

The snarky little frepmail you sent me last night didn’t raise my opinion of you either.

I have read previously on FreeRepublic that when you make reference to another member, whether publicly or privately, it is expected you include them. Since you protested about my request last night and I mentioned your name as one who had concerns about my request, I followed that courtesy. Is this courtesy no longer followed at Free Republic?

Learn some manners and quit instructing more seasoned FReepers in what you consider proper etiquette.

"Please" and "Thank you" are generally considered to be at thhe foundation of good manners. I have used both when making requests.

I do not hold to the opinion thast seasoned freepers are less prone to error on any subject than newbies; if I am in error, then show me by reason, logic and evidence, and I will apologize for my error and desist. If I have broken any rule of Free Republic, I encourage you to report me.

You’re not my mom or my teacher, or a moderator, You are in no position to even request that others read anything before commenting.

Isn't it poor manners to dictate whether or not someone is in a position to make a request?

86 posted on 07/08/2008 5:36:18 PM PDT by Oyarsa
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To: don-o
If you would come down to earth, I would explain the "Italians" reference.

Don-O, would you please explain the "Italians" reference?

87 posted on 07/08/2008 5:38:15 PM PDT by Oyarsa
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To: Oyarsa

You have us all beat in the “poor manners” department.
I have a hunch you won’t be around FR much longer.....


88 posted on 07/08/2008 5:42:55 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Typical gringa.)
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To: Oyarsa

That’s nonsense and you are rude and insulting.
Also, don’t take your grievances with a poster to freepmail. That’s also rude and a no-no on Free Republic.


89 posted on 07/08/2008 5:43:42 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: La Enchiladita

What “poor manners” have I displayed, KiloLima?


90 posted on 07/08/2008 5:44:41 PM PDT by Oyarsa
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To: Oyarsa

Not yet. You are not worthy.


91 posted on 07/08/2008 5:47:46 PM PDT by don-o (Have you donated to FR? If not, why not?)
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To: Jean S
That’s nonsense and you are rude and insulting.

Would you please be more specific, Jean S? What is nonsense and where have I been rude and insulting?

Also, don’t take your grievances with a poster to freepmail. That’s also rude and a no-no on Free Republic.

If I understand you correctly, are you saying it is inappropriate on Free Republic to discuss private grievances privately via freepmail to avoid disrupting a thread? Pardon me if I have misunderstood you and this is not what you meant.

92 posted on 07/08/2008 5:48:55 PM PDT by Oyarsa
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To: Oyarsa

Well I give, your fabulous manners have won me over. How many Freepers have to point out that they aren’t impressed by your “please read the entire” Barbra Streisand before you discover that it’s off putting? Your email last night was nothing more than tattling. You don’t need to notify me when you whine to the mods that I’m not playing by YOUR rules.

“Please” and “Thank you” are generally considered to be at thhe foundation of good manners. I have used both when making requests.”

So if I say “Please stop telling me what to read and when I can comment, Thank you.” does that mean I have good manners?


93 posted on 07/08/2008 5:53:47 PM PDT by BruceysMom ( My heart is in Baggs)
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To: Oyarsa

What are some of your previous FR names???


94 posted on 07/08/2008 5:56:30 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Typical gringa.)
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To: Oyarsa

The clock is ticking so I’ll say “Buh-bye” before it runs out.


95 posted on 07/08/2008 5:57:15 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Typical gringa.)
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To: Oyarsa

A bit of advice - quit making demands of other posters as to what they are to read and how they are to reply. All you are doing is derailing your own threads, and it is not your perogative to make such demands.


96 posted on 07/08/2008 6:01:36 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: BruceysMom
Well I give, your fabulous manners have won me over. How many Freepers have to point out that they aren’t impressed by your “please read the entire” Barbra Streisand before you discover that it’s off putting?

As I have observed, some have claimed it was off putting to them; not everyone here has made such a claim, but I do not follow the demands of a collective, BruceysMom. I obey the posted rules and the dictates of my conscience.

Your email last night was nothing more than tattling. You don’t need to notify me when you whine to the mods that I’m not playing by YOUR rules.

The complaint in that Freepmail was not that you were not playing by my rules, it was the following question: "Is the following: “Please read the post in its entirety before commenting. Thank you.” in violation of any of the rules at Free Republic?"

To date, I have not been informed that this phrase is in violation of any rule at FreeRepublic.

“Please” and “Thank you” are generally considered to be at thhe foundation of good manners. I have used both when making requests.”

So if I say “Please stop telling me what to read and when I can comment, Thank you.” does that mean I have good manners?

I would be more than happy to oblige your request, BruceysMom, considering that I have neither told you "what to read" or dictated "when [you] can comment."

97 posted on 07/08/2008 6:04:35 PM PDT by Oyarsa
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To: Admin Moderator

As you wish, Admin Moderator.


98 posted on 07/08/2008 6:05:42 PM PDT by Oyarsa
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To: La Enchiladita

I have none.


99 posted on 07/08/2008 6:06:29 PM PDT by Oyarsa
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To: don-o; Oyarsa; Jean S; BruceysMom
But, keep digging, pal. This is a good looking hole you’re constructing.

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I just want to get the '100'.

100 posted on 07/08/2008 6:41:39 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Typical gringa.)
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