Global warming on Free Republic
Posted on 07/05/2008 12:19:05 PM PDT by sionnsar
For years, climate alarmists in the media have loved showing video footage of Greenland glaciers slipping into the ocean in order to evoke feelings of global warming gloom and doom in the citizenry.
On Friday, the journal Science is publishing a seventeen year study of Greenland's ice sheet that flatly contradicts all such hysterical reports and claims.
In fact, the paper concludes that such melting is a normal summertime event, and that when looked at over a longer period of time, there has been little change in the ice sheets in this region, and even possibly a slowing in glacial movement.
Imagine that.
Somewhat surprisingly, the New York Times' Andrew C. Revkin appears to be the first to report some of the findings (emphasis added):
[A] new Dutch study of 17 years of satellite measurements of ice movement in western Greenland concludes that the speedup of the ice is a transient summertime phenomenon, with the overall yearly movement of the grinding glaciers not changing, and actually dropping slightly in some places, when measured over longer time spans.If the findings in this study prove accurate, one of the cornerstones of the global warming myth will have been completely debunked.The work, the authors and other experts caution, does not mean that more widespread surface melting could not eventually destabilize vast areas of the world’s second-largest ice storehouse. But for the moment, the study, which is being published in Friday’s edition of the journal Science, throws into question the notion that abrupt ice losses in Greenland are nigh.
“The positive-feedback mechanism between melt rate and ice velocity appears to be a seasonal process that may have only a limited effect on the response of the ice sheet to climate warming over the next decades,” said the paper.
As such, I'm sure this will be headline and front-page news all weekend long once this paper is officially published. And, I imagine climate alarmists like Nobel Laureate Al Gore and NASA's James Hansen will not only be asked to comment about these new revelations, but will also be available for interviews with curious media members in the days ahead.
As this will likely not be the case, readers should keep an eye on NewsBusters for more details as they come available.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.
We now stand at about 300 parts per million, which is a part every 3333.
150 parts per million is a part every 6666. Imagine lining up 6666 pieces of anything and throwing just one of something else in there. Is that really significant? In the case of weather could it really cause warming? Is there even any evidence that CO2 is a significant greenhouse gas? Certainly not as significant as water vapor. Man made global warming is a hoax.
I have to remember that phrase. "I know I should mow the lawn, but it's just a transient summertime phenomenon anyway."
"Global climate change" is so much more useful of a theory than either "global warming" or "global cooling" was.
Is it warmer today than usual? It is because of global climate change.
Is it cooler today than usual? It is because of global climate change.
Is it wetter, dryer, windier, less windy, cloudier, less cloudy? It doesn't matter. Whenever there is bad weather anywhere in the world, it is because of global climate change caused by Bush and those damned SUVs.
Women and minorities will be hardest hit.
You mean I shouldn’t have invested in the Baffin Island Club Med???
Yeah like those “threatened” polar bears. I just saw one living perfectly well in sunny San Diego. No special cooling environment just open air. The incredulity around the whole climate change issue is has passed ridiculousness. Does anyone who isn’t a child or woefully uninformed believe the alarmists? I almost forgot we have two of them running for President.
LOL! It’s not too late to sell off — maybe James Hansen will buy in.
Do the climate alarmist know that the phenomenon of ice melt has left the nation of Iceland almost devoid of ice except for a couple of glaciers? It would be a big help if the NY Times and all the other liberal rags stop killing trees and shut down their printing presses.
Too many “scientists” are hooked on government grants for their paychecks. The faux climate change hysteria would melt faster than Greenland’s summer ice if government welfare to scientists would dry up.
ping
The P-38 aircraft “Glacier Girl” was recovered from beneath 268 feet of ice that had accumulated over it in the time between its 1942 landing on the surface and 1992, when it was recovered.
The fact that this much ice had accumulated in almost 50 years, and that much ice must melt before we return to the level that existed in 1942 is entirely missed by the climate alarmists. Why? It simply proves them to be the fools they really are.
see:
http://p38assn.org/glacier-girl-recovery.htm
Poor Old Perfesser, wandered into a conservative site and thought he could sell global warming.
Your data is good. I also like to point out that global warming has been detected on Mars and Pluto
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_ice-age_031208.html
http://seoblackhat.com/2007/03/04/global-warming-on-mars-pluto-triton-and-jupiter/
— which to an illeducated guy like me means that there are variations in Solar energy.
Sun’s Output Increasing in Possible Trend Fueling Global Warming
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sun_output_030320.html
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Global warming on Free Republic
>”Poor Old Perfesser, wandered into a conservative site and thought he could sell global warming.”<
-I’m pretty sure Old Professor was just being sardonic. I’ve seen his posts on GW threads before; he’s not a believer.
It’s amazing that the Earth gets colder and warmer, too.
Kidding aside: This actually could be an important article - and I hope it continues to be borne out.
The New York Times pushed a pet liberal adgenda over the truth?
OMG
How can it be?
How can that be?
/sarcasm off
Don’t bring Old Professor into this please, I can’t speak for him; it is I to whom he referred and indeed I was merely mocking the popular mantra.
“Global warming” hoax BUMP!
Cooooollll...... ;-)
Large and Rapid Melt-Induced Velocity Changes in the Ablation Zone of the Greenland Ice Sheet link to abstract
Americans' unhappy birthday: 'Too much wrong'
Revkin & the Times are quick to link abstracts & articles when they like the subject. They didn't bother. I tried searching Science using Greenland as the term to search, but no luck. I had to read Revkin's article to find the author's name of the original article, and then do an author search. Is it just a coincidence that this article is buried in the July 4th weekend with the woe is us article from associated pap?
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