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To: Kleebo151

Either this poll is flawed, or those who call themselves libertarians are very mistaken about what it is to be a libertarain. Both McCain and Obama are socailists, both love big government, both will expand government. However, the difference in scale is undisputable, Obama is clearly more anti-freedom than McCain. Not that either will get my vote. :)


7 posted on 07/05/2008 10:50:33 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks
I have to agree. Maybe there is a new definition of what a Libertarian is? The msm does change the meaning of words to suit their agenda.
15 posted on 07/05/2008 10:56:05 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: traviskicks

I agree. The “libertarians” who support Obama are probably the same ones who supported Giuliani. Either they aren’t really for libertarian ideals, or they aren’t paying attention.


34 posted on 07/05/2008 11:32:50 AM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: traviskicks
Either this poll is flawed, or those who call themselves libertarians are very mistaken about what it is to be a libertarain.

Well, how does the Reason crowd strike you today as opposed to years ago?

36 posted on 07/05/2008 11:40:38 AM PDT by decimon
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To: traviskicks
"what it is"

In Wisconsin there are several libertarian candidates for governor. One sounds like a socialist leading his libertarian opponent (I can't remember the name of either candidate) to question whether he knows what a true libertarian believes.

47 posted on 07/05/2008 11:48:20 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: traviskicks
Either this poll is flawed, or those who call themselves libertarians are very mistaken about what it is to be a libertarain....

...or we Libertarians are being our usual contrary selves, and are not being completely honest with the pollsters. That has happened before.

Not that we owe any damned thing to any of these Bozos.

96 posted on 07/05/2008 2:44:27 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: traviskicks
Either this poll is flawed, or those who call themselves libertarians are very mistaken about what it is to be a libertarian.

A few years ago, I was having a discussion about politics with some extremely Left-leaning homeschool mothers, and they considered themselves "libertarians". I told them they were NOT libertarians; they were Democrats/Green Party/Michael Moore types. On a few issues, they held the libertarian position, but everyone is libertarian on one or two issues. People like them probably responded to this poll.

109 posted on 07/05/2008 5:59:36 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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