To: The_Republican
Some very good points made. Those who are for ‘change’ need to better understand that the deviance from those stellar principles are what leads a country to strive and chaos.
“The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the
beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years,
these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From Bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.”
— Alexander Tyler (Lord Woodhouselee, Alexander Fraser Tyler a Scottish historian/professor who wrote several books in the late 1700s and early 1800s.)
God give us men. The time demands
Strong minds, great hearts, true faith, and willing hands;
Men whom the lust of office does not kill;
Men whom the spoils of office cannot buy;
Men who possess opinions and a will;
Men who have honor; men who will not lie;
Men who can stand before a demagogue
And dam his treacherous flatteries without winking;
Tall men, sun-crowned, who live above the fog
In public duty and in private thinking.
— Josiah Gilbert Holland. 1819-1881
2 posted on
07/03/2008 5:49:16 PM PDT by
The Spirit Of Allegiance
(Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Some tremendous quotes! Thanks for sharing!
4 posted on
07/03/2008 5:52:32 PM PDT by
The_Republican
(Conservatives are in trouble because they hate Scarlett Johanson.)
To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
I'll put in a timeline as to when I think each period occurred
The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence: From Bondage to spiritual faith;(1775-1830)
From spiritual faith to great courage;(1830-1870)
From courage to liberty;(1870-1930)
From liberty to abundance;(1930-1985)
From abundance to complacency;(1985-2000)
From complacency to apathy;(2000-present)
From apathy to dependence;(2009-future)
From dependence back into bondage.(2009-future)
Alexander Tyler (Lord Woodhouselee, Alexander Fraser Tyler a Scottish historian/professor who wrote several books in the late 1700s and early 1800s.)
9 posted on
07/03/2008 6:05:33 PM PDT by
buccaneer81
(Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
I've quoted Tyler from time to time here, in this very context. There is a dark sub-culture of physical mass that not only has an instinctive impulse to be the Yang to the American Yin, it is also working with a clear purpose to destroy the very society that empowers it, like a cancer killing it's host. The separation of the parasite from it's victim almost occurred 145 years ago; I won't debate which side was right or wrong for myriad reasons. But the tools and means of this next schism are quite different; this Republic will not survive in it's current dogmatic configuration, and there is little on the visible horizion that will alter that. Either we take unpalatable steps to preserve the last vestiges of the greatest civilization that humanity has ever arisen to, or we shall all sink into a wallowing cesspool of neo-Medievalism, losing our principals and identities as individuals to the 'greater' good of amoral, relativistic, hive-like collectivism.
12 posted on
07/03/2008 6:12:14 PM PDT by
Viking2002
(Barak Obama is as inept as a bear cub with his dink.)
To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. Tyler never said that and whoever came up with it was spouting nonsense.
Sorry but the "greatest" civilizations on average have lasted 500 years, several have lasted much longer, well into the thousands of years.
As for his "Sequence" it is the same patient malarkey.
There is no such "Sequence" in "all civilizations" small or great. Each civilization rises and falls in it's own manner and for its own series of reasons.
26 posted on
07/04/2008 8:27:40 AM PDT by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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