Posted on 07/02/2008 10:22:56 AM PDT by Winged Hussar
It has been established [http://husaria.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/obama-campaign-sanctioned-anti-semitic-and-other-hate-speech/] that Barack Obama’s official campaign site exercises editorial control over the content of my.barackobama.com, and is capable of finding and removing “offensive” and “disrespectful” material within two days. The following has been online for almost three weeks. It accuses Israel of deliberatly murdering the crew of the U.S.S. Liberty, American Jews with divided loyalties of complicity, and John McCain’s father of complicity in a cover up. The following entry is sanctioned (tolerated) by Barack Obama’s official campaign...
Now, we come to what has happened in the past few years. A man called A. J. Cristol, a Jewish bankruptcy judge from Florida, wrote a book called THE LIBERTY INCIDENT, in which he says Israel is exonerated for the attack on the LIBERTY because it was a case of mistaken identity. The book is full of lies, falsehoods and continues the cover-up for Israel’s blatant murder of American sons on the high seas. The survivors call this book a bunch of hog wash. Guess who endorses this book as factual? YEP! You guessed it - Senator John McCain. He knows all about the cover-up on the LIBERTY attack but he follows in his father’s footsteps and praises this piece of garbage. He, along with his father, has the blood of the LIBERTY crew on his hands.
... All McCain cares about is the Jewish vote and pleasing Israel. No one should be allowed to get by with murder, not even Israel nor our elected officials. They all should be held accountable for the murders and wounding of Americans and the subsequent cover-up, especially Senator John McCain.
(Excerpt) Read more at israpundit.com ...
You ignored the other, more meaningful indicator. Egypt did not have, nor ever will have, a ship with a silhouette anything like the Liberty. Furthermore, the Israeli had been notified in advance that the vessel would be present. The case has been fully documented in the public domain. It has been covered up by our government and the media. The attack was deliberate, and the Israeli knew the ship was American. You aught to research the topic, as you would find their reasons interesting. It was a matter of breaking Israeli codes and then broadcasting their intentions in the clear. From the Israeli standpoint, the US ship was breaching their security and divulging battlefield tactics to the enemy.
If your mission is to collect intelligence, you have to go where you can see/hear your targets. "Faint Heart Ne'er Won Fair Maiden."
They always come slithering out of their holes with the Liberty incident. Next we will hear about a friend of a friend of a grandmother who cuts some friends hair who has their nails done by a great aunt, whose son mowes the lawn of someone who knew a Liberty survivor. And as G*d is their witness this is what they said. Usually it ends with them blaming some minority group they think that owns the banks, papers, hollywood and controls the bathroom keys to the congressional toilets. ;-)
A concept definately lost on some folks.
Really?
If this is true, then we were, indeed, cruisin' for a bruisin' by stickin' our nose where it don't belong.
Well, no. As an American, I have my country’s interests at heart. The subjection of the West Bank and Gaza and the relocation of Israel’s capital do nothing to promote those interests.
You are not well informed about much of anything, it seems. First, The Mediterranean is considered "international waters" by even the Israeli. Second, we were there to support Israeli operations. Third, we are in constant need to know what is going on in the world, particularly during hostilities. Warfare affects financial and economic welfare of the US even when we are not directly in the fray.
It must be nice to have a simplistic world view.
Whatever happens in that region will affect "my county's interests", usually in relation to the free flow of oil. Gathering intelligence is vital to protecting our interests, regardless of Israel's behavior.
You don't really believe that the US can operate to protect our own interest devoid of "signal intelligence", do you?
Also, how we punish Israel for the 1967 friendly fire mishap?
Second, we were there to support Israeli operations.
How so? For one thing, at the outbreak of the war, President Johnson exhorted Americans to practice neutrality "in word, thought and deed." For another thing, you yourself stated in post #21 that you aught [sic] to research the topic, as you would find their reasons interesting. It was a matter of breaking Israeli codes and then broadcasting their intentions in the clear. From the Israeli standpoint, the US ship was breaching their security and divulging battlefield tactics to the enemy. How does that amount to "support for Israeli operations"?
Third, we are in constant need to know what is going on in the world, particularly during hostilities.
If, as you imply in post #21, we intended to meddle and to undermine Israel's war effort, that goes beyond merely gathering intelligence.
You are not well informed about much of anything, it seems...It must be nice to have a simplistic world view.
Can we not hold a rational discussion sans the personal insults?
That seems to be the most logial explanation.
Sez you. You're entitled to your opinion; I don't share it.
In whose interests is it?
The whole world has an interest in the peace and prosperity of the Middle East. Speaking as one concerned with justice, I care about justice there as well.
Also, how we punish Israel for the 1967 friendly fire mishap?
I don't recall any friendly fire mishaps in 1967.
Certainly not.
You're obviously clueless about military intelligence. Way to piss on dead sailors.
However, I don't believe this is true. I accept the standard explanation that the sailors aboard the USS Liberty were tragic victims of friendly fire brought on by a series of miscalculations, snafus, and "the fog of war."
What was friendly fire about that?
What wasn’t?
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