Posted on 07/01/2008 1:03:52 PM PDT by Red Steel
Fellow Blog Talk Radio compadre David Zublick over at Heading Right says, Maybe Not.
I noted back here that when Kos produced - not a birth certificate - but a certificate of live birth there were several discrepancies noted that pointed to the fact - aside from the convenience - that the document was most likely forged. Since Obama has failed to produce a birth certificate, in-spite of several calls to do so, is telling indeed.
I was born in 1958 in the State of Florida and I can get a birth certificate for ten bucks. I doubt Hawaii was so backward in 1961 that it cannot produce a copy that he could show.
The news orgs are NOT looking into this, but some of us can snoop where others cannot. Well see what we can find. Fellow Blog Talk Radio compadre David Zublick over at Heading Right says, Maybe Not.
I noted back here that when Kos produced - not a birth certificate - but a certificate of live birth there were several discrepancies noted that pointed to the fact - aside from the convenience - that the document was most likely forged. Since Obama has failed to produce a birth certificate, in-spite of several calls to do so, is telling indeed.
I was born in 1958 in the State of Florida and I can get a birth certificate for ten bucks. I doubt Hawaii was so backward in 1961 that it cannot produce a copy that he could show.
The news orgs are NOT looking into this, but some of us can snoop where others cannot. Well see what we can find.
UPDATE: Looks like some have filed the ole FOIA request to force the issue. Meanwhile Doug Ross thinks its legit.
One note, Certificates of Live Birth are NOT considered proof of citizenship in many states including Florida, while in other states it is.
Again, why not then just produce the damn certificate, it clears up the whole thing. Until we see that, the issue isnt closed.
If that is indeed the case, then the certificate does appear legitimate, having both a seal and a signature.
However, I continue to find it odd that the campaign did not simply offer the document for inspection by interested parties. All rumors would have ceased at that point. Now, because of stonewalling by the campaign, they've managed to create an issue that won't go away.
Apparently not.
Why should they. If they don't we sit here and chase imaginary rabbits down holes that go no where, all the while, ignoring his leftist record and day to day gaffs.
No, he has not. Are you oblivious to the many problems with the Obama BC? These questions weren't plucked out of thin air. The issue is not going away because the question is absolutely legitimate.
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I tend to agree ... the Kommie Kos Kooks are probably trying to bait us.
If this story is to have any impact, it will need to be corroborated.
One can be a Senator or Representative if one is a naturalized citizen.
Representative Tom Lantos was a naturalized citizen born in Budapest, Hungary.
I’m aware of that. But do they have to prove they were naturalized before running?
That’s pretty much what I said.
Another simple way to quell all this crap is to provide any evidence at all that Obama was born outside of the U.S.
>>>One can be a Senator or Representative if one is a naturalized citizen.
That is true. Let’s hope B.O. filed his naturalization papers. But ‘unverified’ rumor is he never filed for Selective Service.
If he didn’t complete the naturalization process, than as David said, he is an illegal alien.
Does it? I have never seen anyone quote the specific law that supposedly said that. Title and section and when was it supposed to have been passed?
To who?
Don’t they have to register to run? That would be a good place to begin the screening.
Yes. I participated in many discussions of Obama’s BC here and elsewhere and believed it was suspect.
I am now aware that there actually is an embossed seal on the certificate and that there is likely an official’s signature on the back.
The problems I and many others had with it have been addressed to my satisfaction.
Good luck finding forty eight year old documents in a third world country.
It’s on him to prove he’s a natural born citizen. Constitutionally required.
Begin, maybe. But currently I don't know of a single state that does that.
Looks like it’s part of the the Immigration and Nationality Act.
http://www.theodora.com/ina_96_title_3.html
“g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669; 22 U.S.C. 288) by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date;”
Judicial Watch is seeking: Any and all public documents resulting from Illinois State Senator Barack Obamas years in the office (1997-2004) that the ISA [has] in its possession. Judicial Watch filed its open records request on February 7, 2008, after public statements made by Obama regarding his Illinois State Senate records.
These records are going to be as difficult to extract as is a birth certificate document which will answer the simple question about his place of birth.
There are other deceptions about Obama’s past that the Obama Campaign Machine will put forth to hide an examination on the personal character question. The birth certificate question is an example of the continuous series of deceptions that have been going on since Obama entered the scene. It is an example of a fundamental flaw in his character—deceitfulness—that cannot be a quality for the one we trust in the highest office in the United States.
We cannot allow a candidate to continuously mislead the public, staging fraudulent events, and manipulation the facts of his past in order to slip into the Presidency.
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