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FBI Chief Unhappy With Supreme Court Ruling
kwtx.com ^ | July 1, 2008 | NA

Posted on 07/01/2008 10:54:32 AM PDT by neverdem

The director of the FBI is not happy with the Supreme Court's recent handgun ruling.

Robert Mueller says he tends to believe that "weapons harm people, and more often than not they harm the people carrying them."

Mueller said the high court's decision, which threw out a handgun ban in Washington, D.C., "does throw a lot of things up in the air."

Mueller said communities will now have to decide their own licensing programs.

Mueller was speaking at a convention of the International Association of Campus Law Enforcement Administrators in Hartford, Connecticut.

He says with his grandchildren going to college, he hopes "those campuses will be weapons-free."


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To: neverdem

He says with his grandchildren going to college, he hopes “those campuses will be weapons-free.”

Worked out great for Virginia Tech, didn’t it?


121 posted on 07/01/2008 11:51:38 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: theDentist

That certainly will help clear his head!


122 posted on 07/01/2008 11:54:12 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Heller: The defining moment of our Republic)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Way back when we used to do “inspection arms drills,” in the beginning it was quite noisy - sounded like a bunch of girls.

Purple thumbs.


123 posted on 07/01/2008 11:54:17 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: neverdem
Robert Mueller says he tends to believe that "weapons harm people, and more often than not they harm the people carrying them."

Well let him lead by example and disarm the FBI - starting wth the hostage rescue murder team.

124 posted on 07/01/2008 11:54:53 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Sprite518
Muller needs to look at the facts instead of complaining about a right that was given to us at our Nation's foundation.

Just a gentle reminder ... God gave us the right to self-defense. The 2nd says that gubmint can't take it away. "... the right of the people ... shall not be infringed."

125 posted on 07/01/2008 11:55:59 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: neverdem

We’re big boys and girls,Mr Mueller...we’ll do just fine.But thanks for your concern!


126 posted on 07/01/2008 11:56:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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To: weegee

>So 51% of all gunshot injuries are self-inflicted or “return fire”?<

Over the five years ending in 1997, the Justice Department says, there was an average of 36,000 firearms-related deaths a year. (Fifty-one percent were suicides, and 44 percent homicides.)


127 posted on 07/01/2008 11:58:05 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: Roklok
Anybody with this mentality does not have the mental capacity to be a dog catcher much less the head of the FBI.

That just shows that you don't have a good idea of what the FBI is supposed to do. Think sicherheits dienst. They naturally want the peons disarmed. Less likely to be trouble later for future things like Waco and Ruby Ridge.

128 posted on 07/01/2008 11:59:10 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Dead Corpse

That case is an prime example of what happens even to LEO’s when everybody is unfamiliar with weapons. Specialist training is a weak substitute in a culture for maintained general knowledge. Why? Many reasons!


129 posted on 07/01/2008 11:59:19 AM PDT by bvw
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To: NathanR
No, you're off target, no pun intended.

He says that weapons harm people. Have you ever had a power tool get loose from your garage and go on a rampage? I've never had a gun do that either. Last time I went to the range, I had to aim at the target and pull the trigger.

Moreover, he said that those weapons "more often than not they harm the people carrying them." That's not like saying that those who own power tools are more likely to be injured by power tools than those who don't own them. That's like saying that if you own a power tool your chance of being injured by that tool is at least 51%.

Do you believe the chance of cutting yourself with a circular saw is 51% or more? Is my chance of accidentally blowing my brains out with my Mossberg 51% or higher? Because whether he realizes it or not, that's what Mueller's saying.

BTW, I've used power tools for 25 years now, with zero injuries. I've never had or witnessed a gun-related injury, either.

130 posted on 07/01/2008 11:59:21 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: kbennkc

No. I guess not. You hoped for better though.


131 posted on 07/01/2008 11:59:23 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Domandred

I’m always more nervous using a circular saw than I ever have been using a firearm. I don’t know why, I take both of them very seriously and make a great effort to be safe.


132 posted on 07/01/2008 12:02:10 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I’ve heard stories of two scenarios.
accidental naval shoot down during an exercise and then of course terrorists.
Either way I will never forget a day after the tragedy F.B.I. agent Kalstrum was interviwed and he said that,”if we knew the truth about this”, caught himself and ended the interview and left.He was agent in charge at the time.
So I don’t think it was a freaking leaking fuel tank or bad wiring.
How ya doing Mr. Silverback? Hope you have a wonderful 4th of July.


133 posted on 07/01/2008 12:04:45 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: weegee

I would be fine with ditching pretty much any federal law enforcement agency (except the Marshals) but how would we handle legitimate federal enforcement in that case?


134 posted on 07/01/2008 12:05:57 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: neverdem
The director of the FBI is not happy with the Supreme Court's recent handgun ruling.

The come try and take them G-Man.

135 posted on 07/01/2008 12:06:19 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: neverdem

He should not only leave the FBI, he should leave the country.


136 posted on 07/01/2008 12:06:45 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: weegee

Sitting here laughing my tail off.
Good one weegee.
The list of stuff the F.B.I. would rather we not know about them is long and damning.
Thanks for the laugh.


137 posted on 07/01/2008 12:06:50 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Dead Corpse
To follow on may last ...

That is, a case like you describe would have been ridiculed by everyone -- at every level of society. And because of the fear of being so shamed it wouldn't have happened. A person acts with more integrity, more easily -- off the top of the head, almost, about stuff that everybody knows how to identify how he did with it. Stuff everybody knows about.

We have been de-weaponized since Sullivan, since the greater "Temeperance" movements, since Miller, and as a culture we suffer. The founders KNEW! That's why exactly the second is worded just the way it is.

I'll give an older version: "Since a dedicated priestly class is necessary for the security of Israel, the right of the Israelites to practice their religion shall not be infringed."

138 posted on 07/01/2008 12:07:39 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Mr. Silverback

> Last time I went to the range, I had to aim at the target and pull the trigger.<

I have seen weapons that were literally worn out and not once had they learned from their owners about how to aim and fire without human assistance. Disgusting that we would pay so much for these fancy firearms and they refuse to learn.


139 posted on 07/01/2008 12:07:53 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: Domandred

***I’ve never been harmed by the weapons I carry...well unless you count the black eye I got from my scope once when I wasn’t holding my rifle properly.***

I bet that hurt.

I probably almost lost my eye when I fell on a metal display. Had a small cut on my eye socket.


140 posted on 07/01/2008 12:09:26 PM PDT by wastedyears (Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
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