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Posted on 06/30/2008 3:46:03 AM PDT by Caleb1411
Last week, controversy erupted when Archbishop John Nienstedt informed St. Joan of Arc Catholic Church in Minneapolis that it could not hold a gay pride prayer service in its sanctuary. The service -- held for several years in conjunction with the annual Twin Cities Gay Pride festival -- celebrates the gay identity.
In response, organizers moved the celebration outside the church. One gay activist attended in what must have struck him as a clown's outfit, given the occasion -- the robes of an archbishop, miter and all. David McCaffrey of the Catholic Pastoral Committee on Sexual Minorities (CPCSM) condemned what he called Nienstedt's "reign of homophobic hatred." In an e-mail to the group's members, he characterized the archbishop's decision as "yet another volley of dehumanizing spiritual violence directed at GLBT persons and their families."
Clearly, there is hatred here. But it is not coming from the Catholic Church. Rather, it's a tool of those who are trying to compel the church to conform to their personal demands with caricatures and public mockery.
Opponents charge that the church does not welcome gays. They point to the fact that the archdiocese won't sponsor a gay pride prayer service as evidence.
But the truth is different: The church welcomes everyone. Far from rejecting gays as sinners, Christianity teaches that all human beings are sinners. In fact, it maintains, it is precisely because we are sinners that we need the Christian message.
So Michael Bayly of CPCSM got it wrong when he told the Star Tribune that "the archdiocese is now dictating to people who they can and cannot pray for." The church advocates prayer for all, straight and gay alike, because it regards all as sinners.
But "gay pride" is a different matter.
(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...
This is a brave woman.
Victim mentality. “You owe us because we are victimized by your biased attitude towards us since we are *different*”
Words matter!
And the homosexual lobby is doing everything they can to erase such words as “mother” and “father” “husband” and “wife” etc. Just having the mainstream of America to accept the phrase “gay marriage” is a victory for their lobby.
Consider: the pro-abortion lobby has never conceded that “partial-birth abortion” is an acceptable phrase. They Always prefix “so-called”. We should do the same regarding their attempts to say that a marriage can exist between two similar bodies, by saying “so-called gay marriage.” They are a ‘couple” — a couple of men, or a couple of women. But it takes one of each to make a marriage.
Here’s an earlier thread on apostacy and the St. Joan of Arc parish. I grew up in this parish so I know a few things about the background.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2037942/posts
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Isn’t this also the Archbishop that had some priceless items stolen from his home recently?
Exactly. No matter how much we back up, compromise, change for their sake, etc., we will never be able to ERASE THEIR GUILT. They know it. It scares them.
Nienstedt is recently installed. The previous "archbishop" was the swishy Harry Flynn, who was great for looking the other way when the queers wanted to smear a veneer of "religion" over their perversity.
Thank you!
From now on I will refer to so-called gay marriage only.
Actually, I will refer to it as so-called homosexual marriage. That explains it all!
That word gay has been distorted into something disgusting and immoral and it was a perfectly fine word at one time!
You are right. ‘Gay’ means something bad to children, so they are forbidden to say it ‘in company.’ It was a perfectly good word, until certain people adopted it.
I think of the evolution of words that we cannot say. Words that become pejorative, because they are called hurtful, when what is hurtful is the thing that the word describes.
When I was a child there was such a thing as the Crippled Childrens’ Society. Then we could not say ‘crippled.’ So we said ‘handicapped.’ That became painful, and we now say ‘challenged.’ Soon ‘challenged’ will be ‘mean’ to say. Altering the language does not alter the underlying problem that the person is experiencing.
Crippled means propped up.
My mother-in-law spent her lifetime being called crippled, because she had severe scoliosis and one leg shorter than the other. It did not ‘handicap’ her in doing whatever she wanted to do. Perhaps her bad body form shaped her character. She was a very strong person and personality.
I suppose we are not “allowed” to say “lame” any more either. No matter what descriptive word we use, the fact of her twisted body remained the same.
Their message and its inspiration is all too plainly clear.
To paraphrase the Rolling Stones, it’s a case of “I know I got demons hanging on me but I like it”.
“They know it. It scares them.”
It SHOULD scare them. It has to do with....infinity.
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