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How Kosovo Created its Own Liberal Islam
Standpoint ^ | July 2008 | MICHAEL J. TOTTEN

Posted on 06/29/2008 5:50:12 AM PDT by forkinsocket

On February 17, 2008, Kosovo declared independence from Serbia. Some are concerned about what NATO, the United Nations, and the European Union have nurtured there since the military and humanitarian intervention in 1999. James Jatras, a U.S.-based advocate for the Serbian Orthodox Community, put it bluntly last year when he said Kosovo was a “a beachhead into the rest of Europe” for “radical Muslims” and “terrorist elements.” It’s an assertion without evidence. “We’ve been here for so long,” said United States Army Sergeant Zachary Gore in Eastern Kosovo, “and not seen any evidence of it, that we’ve reached the assumption that it is not a viable threat.”

Nine in 10 of Kosovo’s citizens are ethnic Albanians, and more than 90 per cent of them are at least nominal Muslims. Most are so thoroughly modern and secularised that moderate doesn’t quite say it. The only word that can fairly describe Islam as practiced by the majority of Albanian Muslims is liberal. No nation can be entirely free of extremists, but Kosovo is one of the least religiously extreme Muslim-majority countries on Earth. Radical Islamists aren’t there in significant numbers now, and they aren’t likely to be in the future. Some places may be fertile ground for radicalism in the future, but Kosovo isn’t one of them for many of the same reasons that Christian theocracy isn’t coming to Western Europe.

I arrived here shortly after the declaration of independence, and the first thing I looked for – as always when I visit a Muslim-majority country – was the treatment and status of women.

Women who dress with their hair, ankles, and sometimes even faces showing in places like Saudi Arabia, Iran, and the Taliban-controlled parts of Afghanistan are often beaten or worse.

In Kosovo, by contrast, almost all women, even in small villages, dress like women in the rest of Europe. Streets, cafés, restaurants, and bars are not all-male affairs as they are in much of the Islamic world, where women spend almost all their lives behind walls. If it weren’t for the occasional mosque minaret on the skyline, there is little visible evidence that Kosovo is a Muslim-majority country at all. Kosovo looks, feels, and is European.

A small number of well-heeled Islamic extremists from the Gulf states have moved into Kosovo to rebuild damaged mosques and transform liberal Balkan Islam into the more severe version found in the deserts of Saudi Arabia. They’ve had a small amount of success with a similar project in nearby Bosnia, but they’re meeting stiffer resistance from Kosovo’s religious community as well as from secular citizens.

“We are working very hard to stop these kinds of movements,” said Professor Xhabir Hamiti, of the Islamic studies department at the University of Pristina. “These kinds of movements are dangerous for all nations, for all faiths, for all religions. We are Muslims, but we think the European way. I am a Muslim, I am a scholar, I know how to deal with Islam in my country. There is no need for Arabs to come here. I have no need for their suggestions, no need for their explanations. We created our Islam ourselves here, and we can continue our Islam with our own minds.”

It would be wrong to suggest Kosovo has no Islamists at all, but in the last election in late 2007, the country’s single Islamic party gained only 1.7 per cent of the vote. Kosovo is not the Middle East, and Albanians are not Arabs. The majority converted to Islam relatively recently under Turkish Ottoman rule, and Albanian culture was first solidly Christian. “We Albanians,” Dom Lush Gjergji recently wrote, “descendants of the Illyrians, are Christians from the time of the Apostles… Without Christianity there would be no Albanian people, language, culture, or traditions… Albanians consider Christianity their patrimony, their spiritual and cultural inheritance.” Gjergji is a Catholic priest, but I heard similar comments from many who self-identify as Muslims. “Albanian people are not very religious,” said Agron Rezniqi, of the Friendship Association between Kosovo and Israel “We come from Catholicism, and for that, we are not such strong Muslims.”

Perhaps the best evidence available that Albanian Muslims, in both Kosovo and Albania proper, differ radically from their Arab world counterparts is their relationship with Jews and with Israel. Jews in Albania had an almost 100 per cent survival rate during the Nazi occupation. The country was known as a safe haven where Jews could find protection under the noses of the German authorities. According to Dan Michman, chief historian at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, there were three times as many Jews in Albania at the end of the Second World War as there were at the beginning.

Both Albania and Kosovo have excellent relations with Israel, and Israelis are more than welcome to travel and even live among Albanians. An Israeli from Tel Aviv named Shachar Caspi opened a bakery and a bistro bar in Pristina. “Nobody has given me any problems or been against Israel,” he told me. “[Kosovars] had good relations with Jewish people even back in the old days. And nobody here is radical. On the contrary, people are very warm, they are very nice, they have taken Islam to a beautiful place, not to a violent place. When they hear I am Israeli, the way they react, they react very warmly.”

Much of the angst about Kosovo’s alleged radicalism centres on the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), an organisation that no longer even exists.

It was a short-lived guerrilla movement that rose up against Slobodan Milosevic’s régime, first to fight for independence from an apartheid-like system, and later as a defence against mass murder and ethnic-cleansing. The KLA was always thoroughly secular and in no way resembled a Balkan Hamas or Hezbollah.

Its leaders also distinguished themselves from their Bosnian counterparts when they flatly refused assistance from Arabic mujahideen who wanted to fight a holy war there against Serbs. Albanians don’t fight religious wars, not against themselves, and not against others.

There has been no fighting or even tension between Muslim and Christian Albanians, only between Serbs and Albanians.

The danger in Kosovo isn’t that international peace keepers are nurturing a jihad state. Rather, a premature withdrawal may lead to a resumption of the fighting between Serbs and Albanians that they moved in to stop in the first place.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: albania; antichristian; appeasement; balkans; dhimmwit; horsesass; islam; islamofascists; israel; jihad; kosovo; mohammedanism; serbia
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To: FormerLib
Wrong, the most recent problem started when the Kosovo Albanians began their ethnic cleansing of Serb, Jew, and Roma residents by a sustained terror campaign, including rape and murder, in the 1980’s.

This was documented by David Binder of the New York Times.


You condemn the NYT when you disagree with it and you quote it when you agree with it? No, the ethnic cleansing didn't start in the 1980s under the communists who tried to obliterate all differences. It started in the 1990s. And there are links that quote the other way around, so the truth really is that some crazies on both side were the instigators. I refuse to believe that the majority of Serbs want to commit genocide and I do not believe that the majority of Albanian-Kosovans want that either.
421 posted on 10/01/2008 12:23:18 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: eleni121
I said Stop making this an attack on Orthodoxy. I do not see this as being that, I see the entire Kosovo issue as being more ethnic than anything

you said Your superficial naivete regarding ethnicity and religion or ideology in the Balkans leads you to wrong conclusions.

How do the two sentences co-relate? FACT: the Serbs, Bosnians, Croats, Montenegrins, Macedonians are southern Slavs. FACT: there were Thracians-Dacian-Illyrians living in the lands that are now occupied by the former Yugoslav and Albania and parts of northern Greece and European Turkey. FACT: both the Thracians-D-I's and the Slavs were Indo-European. FACT: in other influxes of populations around the world, the natives are subsumed in the newcomers, and the cultures could go either way.

examples for this -- Dorians, Alexandrine-era Macedonians took Greek culture and became Greeks. Another: the Ainu were assimilated into the Japanese. Another: the Akkadians took over Sumerian cities but the base strata of people remained the same and the culture was Sumerian-Akkadian. Another: the Bulgars conquered what is now Bulgaria but the majority "blood" in Bulgaria is Slavic. Another Turkic tribe conquered Azerbaijan, but the people there are Irani, the Die Viet conquered the Champa but the Champa still remain.


Now, let's look at specifics. Before the Bulgarians came in, you had Slavs and T-D-I's living in the Balkans. Serbs, Croats and Bosnians are essentially the same people separated by religion -- granted that the separated is 400 to 1000 years old. Serbs, Croats, Bosnians live near where the Albanians have lived, correct? There WOULD be dissemination of bloodlines and genetics holds that as true.

Now, keeping all of that in mind, what are the wrong conclusions you say I have made?
422 posted on 10/01/2008 12:31:57 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: eleni121
Your real agenda smacks of hatred of Eastern Orthodoxy.

Name one statement I made that says that or even infers that. I challenge you to point out any of my posts here that are in any way even talking badly about Eastern Orthodoxy. I have a lot of respect for the Eastern lung of The Church and believe that it has preserved a lot of Christendom

However, pointing out bad sides of SOME Albanians and SOME Serbs does not make a statement anti-EO. Sheesh, so if tomorrow someone says that a street in Belgrade wasn't cleaned on Monday, you would take that to be an attack on Eastern Orthodoxy as a whole? Sheesh

At no point have I even condemned the Serbian people as a whole. On the other hand, you have used incredibly vile terms to refer to Albanians (and I'm not Albanian, not even from the Balkans) which really means that you are blinded with hatred.


Finally, for the Parthenon Marbles, yes, they should be returned to Greece now as modern-day free Greece can take care of it's own heritage pretty well. The only reason it's still in the British Museum is money and pride -- a lot of people want to see the glories of ancient Greece and the British Museum gets a halo by having the marbles. They should return it, just like the Italians returned a stele to Ethiopia (taken by Mussolini)
423 posted on 10/01/2008 12:39:14 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Cronos
You condemn the NYT when you disagree with it and you quote it when you agree with it?

I condemn the NYT when they posture as journalists to promote the Left agenda. I quote it when they get the facts right.

Unless you can disprove what Binder documented?

424 posted on 10/01/2008 4:20:04 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

I said that there were articles posing “proof” either way. Your statment of “I condemn the NYT when they posture as journalists to promote the Left agenda. I quote it when they get the facts right.” — translates as “I condemn them when I say they’re wrong and I quote them when I say they get the facts right” — not quite kosher.


425 posted on 10/01/2008 5:26:13 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Cronos

Cronos, don’t bother with FormerLib. He/she is incapable of intelligent discussion. All Albanians are Jihadist fanatics, all Croatians are Nazi bloodkillers, all Serbs are heroic victims.


426 posted on 10/01/2008 11:31:42 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Cronos

So, you didn’t even bother to read the Binder articles, did you?


427 posted on 10/01/2008 4:31:29 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Diocletian

Did I hear a Seig Heil in there?

Oh yeah, it’s Dio.


428 posted on 10/01/2008 4:33:02 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib; Cronos

See what I mean? Incapable of intelligent discussion. Instead, like a liberal, he/she resorts to smears and name calling.


429 posted on 10/01/2008 5:07:22 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian

I don’t cast my pearls before swine, is all.

Deal with it, chumley.


430 posted on 10/01/2008 8:32:25 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

Hey, continue to refuse to engage in intelligent discussion and continue to engage in petty name calling. It’s all you ever do.


431 posted on 10/01/2008 8:38:06 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Cronos

Advice: Nitpicking stats to support your absurd claims impresses no one except those who share your absurd claims.

One of the most absurd claims you make is that Macedonians “became” Greek-— Not posible since they were already Greek!

Based on your idiotic statement about “Alexandrine Macedonians” alone most of what you post is suspect.


432 posted on 10/02/2008 7:55:36 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: Diocletian

You seem quite right about that person — completely unreasonable and also ruinging her cause by acting like the angry muslim rage-boy


433 posted on 10/02/2008 9:09:48 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: eleni121
One of the most absurd claims you make is that Macedonians “became” Greek-— Not posible since they were already Greek!

Do READ a bit. Macedonians during the time of Alexander and his father (hence the term "Alexandrine" Macedonians for short), were looked down upon by Greeks from the Pelopponese as being barbarians with Greek kings -- read up a bit.

Read up also about how the Macedonians and Thracians supported Shahenshah Xerxes when he attempted to subdue the Hellenes.

The Macedonians of that era were NOT "Greek" in the classic sense. In fact, if you go back in history you see that Hellenic civilisation dates from Cretan-Mycenean-Dorian-.... in that progression. When the Mycenea were conquered by the Dorians, the Dorians adopted the higher culture, ditto for when the Macedonians came to control the Greek city-states.

Do you actually read?
434 posted on 10/02/2008 9:15:28 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: SQUID
not completely true -- there were deep ethnic hatred going on there. Look at the comments over here by some people who call themselves Serb-supporters who just spout ethnic (not religious) hatred against Albanians, a non-Slavic group. They throw the term jihadists against the Albanians and then ignore the news that 20-30% of people in albania proper and 4% (and growing) in Kosovo Albanians are Christian: Albanian Orthodox or Catholic because that would ruin the plank of calling them jihadists.

I was also initially drawn to believe this, but the latest news, and more importantly, the frenzied comments posted here that spout ethnic violence and genocide make me doubt that religion is the root cause as opposed to ethnicity
435 posted on 10/02/2008 9:29:03 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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