Posted on 06/29/2008 5:50:12 AM PDT by forkinsocket
On February 17, 2008, Kosovo declared independence from Serbia. Some are concerned about what NATO, the United Nations, and the European Union have nurtured there since the military and humanitarian intervention in 1999. James Jatras, a U.S.-based advocate for the Serbian Orthodox Community, put it bluntly last year when he said Kosovo was a a beachhead into the rest of Europe for radical Muslims and terrorist elements. Its an assertion without evidence. Weve been here for so long, said United States Army Sergeant Zachary Gore in Eastern Kosovo, and not seen any evidence of it, that weve reached the assumption that it is not a viable threat.
Nine in 10 of Kosovos citizens are ethnic Albanians, and more than 90 per cent of them are at least nominal Muslims. Most are so thoroughly modern and secularised that moderate doesnt quite say it. The only word that can fairly describe Islam as practiced by the majority of Albanian Muslims is liberal. No nation can be entirely free of extremists, but Kosovo is one of the least religiously extreme Muslim-majority countries on Earth. Radical Islamists arent there in significant numbers now, and they arent likely to be in the future. Some places may be fertile ground for radicalism in the future, but Kosovo isnt one of them for many of the same reasons that Christian theocracy isnt coming to Western Europe.
I arrived here shortly after the declaration of independence, and the first thing I looked for as always when I visit a Muslim-majority country was the treatment and status of women.
Women who dress with their hair, ankles, and sometimes even faces showing in places like Saudi Arabia, Iran, and the Taliban-controlled parts of Afghanistan are often beaten or worse.
In Kosovo, by contrast, almost all women, even in small villages, dress like women in the rest of Europe. Streets, cafés, restaurants, and bars are not all-male affairs as they are in much of the Islamic world, where women spend almost all their lives behind walls. If it werent for the occasional mosque minaret on the skyline, there is little visible evidence that Kosovo is a Muslim-majority country at all. Kosovo looks, feels, and is European.
A small number of well-heeled Islamic extremists from the Gulf states have moved into Kosovo to rebuild damaged mosques and transform liberal Balkan Islam into the more severe version found in the deserts of Saudi Arabia. Theyve had a small amount of success with a similar project in nearby Bosnia, but theyre meeting stiffer resistance from Kosovos religious community as well as from secular citizens.
We are working very hard to stop these kinds of movements, said Professor Xhabir Hamiti, of the Islamic studies department at the University of Pristina. These kinds of movements are dangerous for all nations, for all faiths, for all religions. We are Muslims, but we think the European way. I am a Muslim, I am a scholar, I know how to deal with Islam in my country. There is no need for Arabs to come here. I have no need for their suggestions, no need for their explanations. We created our Islam ourselves here, and we can continue our Islam with our own minds.
It would be wrong to suggest Kosovo has no Islamists at all, but in the last election in late 2007, the countrys single Islamic party gained only 1.7 per cent of the vote. Kosovo is not the Middle East, and Albanians are not Arabs. The majority converted to Islam relatively recently under Turkish Ottoman rule, and Albanian culture was first solidly Christian. We Albanians, Dom Lush Gjergji recently wrote, descendants of the Illyrians, are Christians from the time of the Apostles Without Christianity there would be no Albanian people, language, culture, or traditions Albanians consider Christianity their patrimony, their spiritual and cultural inheritance. Gjergji is a Catholic priest, but I heard similar comments from many who self-identify as Muslims. Albanian people are not very religious, said Agron Rezniqi, of the Friendship Association between Kosovo and Israel We come from Catholicism, and for that, we are not such strong Muslims.
Perhaps the best evidence available that Albanian Muslims, in both Kosovo and Albania proper, differ radically from their Arab world counterparts is their relationship with Jews and with Israel. Jews in Albania had an almost 100 per cent survival rate during the Nazi occupation. The country was known as a safe haven where Jews could find protection under the noses of the German authorities. According to Dan Michman, chief historian at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, there were three times as many Jews in Albania at the end of the Second World War as there were at the beginning.
Both Albania and Kosovo have excellent relations with Israel, and Israelis are more than welcome to travel and even live among Albanians. An Israeli from Tel Aviv named Shachar Caspi opened a bakery and a bistro bar in Pristina. Nobody has given me any problems or been against Israel, he told me. [Kosovars] had good relations with Jewish people even back in the old days. And nobody here is radical. On the contrary, people are very warm, they are very nice, they have taken Islam to a beautiful place, not to a violent place. When they hear I am Israeli, the way they react, they react very warmly.
Much of the angst about Kosovos alleged radicalism centres on the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), an organisation that no longer even exists.
It was a short-lived guerrilla movement that rose up against Slobodan Milosevics régime, first to fight for independence from an apartheid-like system, and later as a defence against mass murder and ethnic-cleansing. The KLA was always thoroughly secular and in no way resembled a Balkan Hamas or Hezbollah.
Its leaders also distinguished themselves from their Bosnian counterparts when they flatly refused assistance from Arabic mujahideen who wanted to fight a holy war there against Serbs. Albanians dont fight religious wars, not against themselves, and not against others.
There has been no fighting or even tension between Muslim and Christian Albanians, only between Serbs and Albanians.
The danger in Kosovo isnt that international peace keepers are nurturing a jihad state. Rather, a premature withdrawal may lead to a resumption of the fighting between Serbs and Albanians that they moved in to stop in the first place.
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... Uh-oh, Dio just called in the rest of the Black Shirts. LOL!
These liberal Kosovo Muslims sure dynamited a lot of monasteries and churches and drove out a lot of Orthodox Serbs
I don't see how that's relevant to anything unless Binder had enough pull at the NY Times to cause them to totally fabricate stories in the late 1980s. It's basically the NYT describing albanian kosovars as savages (which they are) and, if you don't like the one Binder cited, there are many more to choose from.
Funny, every ethnic group other than albanians seems to have been driven out of KosovO by now and you claim nothing serious caused that? You think maybe the albunnies just made faces at all the other people until they got the creeps and left??
"What is remarkable is that about 10,000 members of Father Gjolaj's midnight congregation will be young Kosovar Albanian Muslims. Thousands more are expected at Catholic churches in other towns and cities across Kosovo.http://www.essex.ac.uk/armedcon/story_id/000164.html or go here that shows that people are embracing Catholicism, but slowly as the region is not 100% ready yet to do it in masse.
What's more, the custom is welcomed by the Catholic clergy and generally smiled upon by Muslim religious leaders.
Father Gjolaj says he does not know how or precisely when the custom of interfaith visitation began in Kosovo. He said he would like to see the phenomenon studied by social scientists: "When it started, I don't know, [at least] since I've been here for the past 11 years. But it is obvious that massive participation began before the war. I think we're talking about approximately 10,000 people, most of them standing inside the church's front yard, since there was not enough place for all of them inside."
More than 90 percent of Kosovo's 2 million people are Muslim. Kosovo has been under UN administration since 1999, when a NATO air war ended a Serbian campaign of ethnic cleansing aimed at Albanians in the province.
The Kosovar Muslim interest in Christmas signals neither an abandonment of Islam nor the adoption of Christian belief. Blerta Krasniqi plans to attend Christmas Mass at Father Gjolaj's church this year. She's a Muslim who lives in Pristina. "
If every ethnic group other than Albanians was driven out, then why are there still over a hundred thousand Serbs living in Kosovo?
These rabid Miloseviknik commies always turn to marxist and anti-American sources to sell their lies. Just look at which countries support Serbia over Kosovo: Red China, North Korea, Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela, and KGB-run Russia. Their whole mission here is to spread anti-American communist propaganda and whitewash their genocidal communist hero, Slobo.
"While under the watchful eye of NATOs Kosovo Forces since 1999, more than 150 Serbian Orthodox churches and monasteries have been destroyed or desecrated and dozens of new mosques have been built including the Osama bin Laden mosque that now stands on Serbian soil."
"Western governments are pushing for independence for a group of Jihadist thugs who recently wanted to create the Osama bin Laden mosque in Kosovo. This name was eventually changed for public relations reasons since the Albanians knew they needed American political support.
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This isn't just "talk". It is specific.
For those who don't know, the "Metohija" name in "Kosovo-Metohija" means "Church Land" and we just helped turn it into "Mosque Land".
So this nationalism?????
The Vatican, The Vatican City State (VCS), an enclave of Rome and a sovereign monarchical-sacerdotal state will not recognize Kosovo, btw!!!!
43 countries did so far, the other 109 that didn’t speaks volumes
As to communism, most of the albunny kosovars are basically illegal immigrants and refugees from one of the worst regimes there was in the commie world. Milosevic on the other hand grew up in a world in which only commies lived past eight or nine but eventually grew out of it. The most major reason the NWO types hated the guy was basically that they viewed him as one of their own gone bad i.e. he started off as a banker and then took Yugoslavia out of the IMF.
There were a baker's half dozen or so realpolitik type reasons why anybody in Slick KKKlinton's position might have wanted to do Kosovo and the Pentagon added them up and determined they did not add up to a case and advised Slick not to do it but the overriding concern was the Juanita Broaddrick story.
I can’t think of a reason to recognize a gangster state, anywhere. That would be like recognizing Chicago as a sovereign nation after Al Capone took it over.
The other 109 countries that didn't: Countries like Cuba, Nicaragua, North Korea, Burma, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Libya, Zimbabwe, etc., etc.
"Washington's plan is that the negotiations on Kosovo end with its unilateral recognition, but we will take care that the plan seems unattractive to them (Americans) as much as it is possible, Serbian lobbyist in the United States James Jatras, who expects the negotiations to continue next year as well, said in an interview with the Monday issue of the Belgrade daily Glas Javnosti....
Europe is reluctant, Jatras said. It is on us, the lobbyists, to strengthen its insecurity both in Washington and in Brussels. It is very important to work on the United States fear of isolation, and at the same time on a division within the European Union, he added."
Wrong. Kosovo has been majority Albanian for several hundred years.
Why don’t you tell us about the destruction, murders and rapes, that Serbs did before that? Doesn’t that matter or provide context?
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