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To: Panzerlied

Everytime the feds do something favorable to the 2nd Admendment, the state of NJ freaks out and take it out on the gunowners in the state. When the assault rifle ban expired, the NJ legislature introduced bills to classify any rifle with a pistol grip as an assault rifle. Within 72 hours after taking office Gov Corzine signed an executive order at the behest of the Super of State Police that high capacity mags blocked to allow only 15 rounds were illegal. Now 50 cal rifles are banned and a limit of one handgun per month is being considered by the legislature. NJ also passed a possession law which stipulates that only persons with a state firearm ID can hold and operate firearms even on private property. Example if you are on travel and a burglar breaks into your house, and your wife uses your handgun to defend herself. She can be arrested for operating a firearm w/o the NJ fire arm ID and you the owner would also be arrested for creating a storage condition that allows a non fire arm ID person to easily access your gun and operate it illegally. Granted common sense will exonerate you and your wife, but not after both are arrested, post bail and spend $ 10,000 minimum per person to appear in court and hopefully the county DA is not a hard ass. Otherwise you may spend up to $ 100,000 on a criminal trial in order to be found innocent.


5 posted on 06/28/2008 2:33:09 PM PDT by Fee
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To: Fee
Otherwise you may spend up to $ 100,000 on a criminal trial in order to be found innocent.

Innocent? You have a lot of faith in the system. Was it Carlin who said he feared bring tried by 12 people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty?

13 posted on 06/28/2008 2:54:46 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: Fee
Granted common sense will exonerate you and your wife

One shouldn't have to hope for such an outcome.

18 posted on 06/28/2008 3:26:21 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Fee

I have some experience of Jersey justice in the urban atmosphere. Briefly, unless you are:

a. a raving, orally foaming imminent danger to society, or

b. someone the prosecutor personally wants to destroy,

you will not be bothered for committing a technicality, because THEY cannot be bothered. They’re that backlogged.


19 posted on 06/28/2008 3:33:30 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Only a Kennedy between us and tyranny.)
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To: Fee

I sorry to say it will take some NJ people, lawyers, and money to fix it.


21 posted on 06/28/2008 3:43:38 PM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: Fee
Everytime the feds do something favorable to the 2nd Admendment, the state of NJ freaks out and take it out on the gunowners in the state.

I have a neat idea, MOVE!!! There are better places than the Marxist state of NJ. We down south don't have such problems. We are all armed to the teeth.

28 posted on 06/28/2008 4:46:40 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Congress in session, the White House occupied - Your freedom, liberty and rights are in jeopardy.)
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To: Fee; bmwcyle; tcostell; Malsua; ZULU; Renegade; britt reed; goldstategop; The KG9 Kid; ...
Yesterday, I sent the following letter to the Star-Ledger. We'll see whether they print it or not....
In an historic, long-overdue ruling, the Supreme Court has confirmed what non-liberal Americans have known for more than 200 years: the Second Amendment defines an individual right, and it is unconstitutional to prohibit citizens from exercising normal means of self-defense of their person and property.

New Jersey's decades-old violations of this constitutionally-guaranteed right are legion -- ranging from arbitrary and capricious licensure restrictions, to prohibition of entire classes of weapons (also unconstitutional), to the threat of state and civil liabilities should a citizen exercise his God-given, constitutionally-guaranteed right of self-defense.

In all parts of this country, it has been demonstrated beyond doubt that gun-restricted areas (especially so-called "gun-free zones") suffer higher rates of violent crime. New Jersey, however, holds the right of criminals sacrosanct, deeming the lives of its citizens expendable.

AG Anne Milgram's misguided response to the ruling shows that nothing has changed. Politicians here are as committed as ever to maintaining iron-clad control over subjects (not citizens). Smart politicians would move, immediately, to lift this state's restrictive, unconstitutional gun laws, but that is not the New Jersey way. Instead, they will spend years and millions of taxpayer dollars fighting the inevitable.


31 posted on 06/28/2008 5:46:19 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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