Posted on 06/28/2008 2:11:52 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
John / Billybob
Thanks Billybob. As I posted somewhere else: It is not the end or the beginning of the end; however, it is the end of the beginning.
bttt
Could not be any clearer or more accurate.
Everytime the feds do something favorable to the 2nd Admendment, the state of NJ freaks out and take it out on the gunowners in the state. When the assault rifle ban expired, the NJ legislature introduced bills to classify any rifle with a pistol grip as an assault rifle. Within 72 hours after taking office Gov Corzine signed an executive order at the behest of the Super of State Police that high capacity mags blocked to allow only 15 rounds were illegal. Now 50 cal rifles are banned and a limit of one handgun per month is being considered by the legislature. NJ also passed a possession law which stipulates that only persons with a state firearm ID can hold and operate firearms even on private property. Example if you are on travel and a burglar breaks into your house, and your wife uses your handgun to defend herself. She can be arrested for operating a firearm w/o the NJ fire arm ID and you the owner would also be arrested for creating a storage condition that allows a non fire arm ID person to easily access your gun and operate it illegally. Granted common sense will exonerate you and your wife, but not after both are arrested, post bail and spend $ 10,000 minimum per person to appear in court and hopefully the county DA is not a hard ass. Otherwise you may spend up to $ 100,000 on a criminal trial in order to be found innocent.
Ypu wrote and I quote, "the Court must follow the new law"
Then you expressed an opinion, "Exactly the same will, I think, apply to the Heller case in the years and decades to come.",
If you could please tell me how that can be? In the case under discussion, the Law was at all times set forth in the 2nd Amendment. Unless at some future date, the 2nd Amendment in repealed, where will the new law come from?
Semper Fi
An old Man
And, when looks back 30 to 40 years and assesses some of the decisions that the Court has made and the resultant affect and effect these decisions have had on our society, one wonders where the moral, common sense of these people resides.
One additionally wonders what motivates them and what benefit they are able to redeem for these decisions.
Inquiring minds want to know.
it’s a wonder that some dan rather hasn’t made the claim that the 2nd applies to arms, but not fingers, legs, feet, or ears. and the NYT cheers him on.
My friends could not understand why I was so euphoric when this decision came down on Thursday. They just couldn’t grasp the significance of this decision. I had to explain it to each and every one of them. As a true American, I don’t agree with the “media” that Obama getting elected would be “historic.” If the “media” wants “historic,” this decision was HISTORIC! IMHO.
Bump
Innocent? You have a lot of faith in the system. Was it Carlin who said he feared bring tried by 12 people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty?
The true meaning is that our all our rights went from coming from God to coming from a parchment that’s interpreted by man.
If the Constitution were to turn to dust would we lose our rights?
Likewise, the Heller case states a general principle, that the meaning of any part of the Constitution is determined by what it meant when it was written, and ratified. The earliest writing was in 1787, ratification by 1789, for the Second Amendment. (The latest ratification was in 1992, BTW.)
The general principle of Heller SHOULD be followed in all Supreme Court cases to come. We shall see.
John / Billybob
The scary thing about this is the 4 jurists who decided to ignore the Constitution in the Heller decision.
Is he too old for Zyprexa?
One shouldn't have to hope for such an outcome.
I have some experience of Jersey justice in the urban atmosphere. Briefly, unless you are:
a. a raving, orally foaming imminent danger to society, or
b. someone the prosecutor personally wants to destroy,
you will not be bothered for committing a technicality, because THEY cannot be bothered. They’re that backlogged.
This decision points out the difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberals are for collective freedoms for the state to do as it will against the individual and conservatives are for the freedom of the individual to do as he will against he state. We almost lost the second amendment to the state.
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