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Wife slain at (Montclair, NJ) YMCA had restraining order
NorthJersey.com ^ | 06.26.08

Posted on 06/28/2008 11:02:15 AM PDT by Coleus

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A man being sought for shooting and killing his estranged wife to death while she watched one of their children swim at a Montclair YMCA had been ordered in October to have no contact with her. Kenneth A. Duckett was under a restraining order that specified no contact with Monica Paul, but allowed him to have visitation rights with their two children, said Paul Loriquet, a spokesman for the Essex County Prosecutor's Office.  "Basically, it was like a curbside drop-off," Loriquet said.

The couple had separated in August, but it was unclear when they had married. Paul, 31, obtained a temporary restraining order in October, and it was made final later that month, Loriquet said.  Paul was with the children at the "Y" last night. As she waited in a poolside where their 4-year-old son was swimming, Duckett approached and shot her several times in front of their 11-year-old daughter, authorities said.

Duckett fled in a white Jeep with another man, and the vehicle was later found in Orange, where the 37-year-old Duckett lived. Police are still looking for Duckett. Witnesses told police that the shooter approached Paul and that the two had a short conversation before he opened fire.

Authorities credited YMCA members and employees with pulling Paul’s children out of harm’s way as the shots were fired. The children were in the care of relatives last night, they said.  “We’ve been advised there has been a history of violence between these individuals,” said Essex County Prosecutor Paula Dow. “Obviously it tells you that with a final restraining order, it still does not prevent horrific things like this.”  Essex County Sheriff Armando Fontoura offered a reward of $5,000 for information leading to the arrest of Duckett and his alleged accomplice.


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To: Morgana
She should have had a moving van and no forwarding address

That only works for a short time, eventually you rack up a credit record in your new residence. Anyone can find you with an online search. So make sure they find you in a gun-friendly state. :)

21 posted on 06/28/2008 11:26:16 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Only a Kennedy between us and tyranny.)
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To: goldstategop
No argument from me. But as I asked before, will any statements made by the victim when procuring the RO be allowed at the trial of the perp? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2036329/posts
22 posted on 06/28/2008 11:27:32 AM PDT by Roccus (The "P" in Democrat stands for Patriotism!)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Not likely. A guy willing to stalk the mother of his child then shoot her in the open with witnesses around isn't going to think about that. Too rational.

I don't care what you know, what you carry or how well trained you are. There are things you can do to minimize threats but when evil wants you bad enough then you are done. I certainly think she could have taken other steps to protect herself but the fault lies with her ex.

23 posted on 06/28/2008 11:28:40 AM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: Roccus

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2036329/posts


24 posted on 06/28/2008 11:29:08 AM PDT by Roccus (The "P" in Democrat stands for Patriotism!)
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To: goldstategop

RO’s do serve one purpose - if you DO have to blow away the subject of the RO, there isn’t even any question about whether you feared for your life or not. If you hadn’t feared for your life, you wouldn’t have gotten an RO, right? That’s the logic, and even libs won’t argue with that much.

Also, wasn’t the Lautenberg Amendment supposed to stop this sort of thing? Subjects of ROs not allowed to have guns? US. v. Emerson? Looks like gun control failed again. Anyone surprised?


25 posted on 06/28/2008 11:30:04 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Coleus
“Obviously it tells you that with a final restraining order, it still does not prevent horrific things like this.”

Really!!! You get the Master of Obvious award


26 posted on 06/28/2008 11:46:13 AM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: Coleus

I was born and raised in Montclair and swam in that pool many times.

This kind of stuff didn’t happen then, although I will point out that one of the very first Post Office multi-shootings occurred in Upper Montclair. Early 90’s I’m thinking.


27 posted on 06/28/2008 11:47:30 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Congrasites = Congressional parasites.)
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To: SatinDoll
New Jersey hasn't issued a concealed carry permit to a non law enforcement official in over 30 years. It's not illegal, it's just that they refuse to do it procedurally.

If the State of New Jersey had recognized this woman's constitutionally protected individual right to "bear arms" then she might be alive today.

28 posted on 06/28/2008 12:15:15 PM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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To: Clemenza

Montclair is one of those few towns where “the other side of the tracks” has a literal meaning.


29 posted on 06/28/2008 12:31:28 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: tcostell
> If the State of New Jersey had recognized this woman's constitutionally protected individual right

I sent a very strongly worded letter to the Star-Ledger yesterday, discussing precisely these points -- we'll see if they print it...

30 posted on 06/28/2008 12:34:00 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Coleus

The system has been set up to allow parents rights to see their children no matter what. Even if a man beats his wife in front of his kids, the court will not stop him from seeing the kids unless he has beaten the kids and it is proven (pretty much multiple witnesses and he is convicted with it.) It doesn’t matter what he does, or even pays child support, he is welcome to see his kids (I am using a generic “he” here. My brother-in-law raised his kids and his ex-wife is the loser.)

When my coworker left her abusive ex-husband in upstate New York in the 70’s, she packed her kids in the car and drove to Southern California. He didn’t see the kids again until they were teenagers (and then they found out what kind-of guy he was and cut off ties from him.) A restraining order isn’t going to save you if you have to stay in the same town and have some recognizable habits you keep with the kids. True, in the internet age, it’s harder to hide from someone, but it’s easier than staying in the same town, and taking the kids to the same places regularly.

I know I might get flamed, and I also know that there are people who would abuse it if the laws changed. I also know of many people whose exes should not have any more control of their life but unfortunately do.


31 posted on 06/28/2008 12:35:18 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: NewJerseyJoe
LOL ... no offense Joe but I think we both know what the odds of that are.... It's the Star Ledger for heaven's sake....

Nice of you to try though.

32 posted on 06/28/2008 12:38:36 PM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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To: Coleus
Restraining orders are a joke. There should be some organization where thee women can hire hit men to take care of these murderous goons. Because the law surely won't.
33 posted on 06/28/2008 1:44:05 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: Coleus

More proof that laws have absolutely no power to constrain somebody, unless they’re behind bars.


34 posted on 06/28/2008 2:31:39 PM PDT by wastedyears (Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

your #21

If I had the choice, it would be either Montana or Kennesaw, GA.


35 posted on 06/28/2008 3:31:36 PM PDT by wastedyears (Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
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To: wastedyears

PA works too. Lots of space to SSS. ;)


36 posted on 06/28/2008 3:44:00 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Only a Kennedy between us and tyranny.)
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To: SatinDoll

I don’t carry a gun…

… to kill people. I carry a gun to keep from being killed.

I don’t carry a gun to scare people. I carry a gun
because sometimes this world can be a scary place.

I don’t carry a gun because I’m paranoid. I carry a gun
because there are real threats in the world.

I don’t carry a gun because I’m evil. I carry a gun
because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.

I don’t carry a gun because I hate the government. I carry a gun
because I understand the limitations of government.

I don’t carry a gun because I’m angry. I carry a gun so that I don’t have to
spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.

I don’t carry a gun because I want to shoot someone. I carry a gun because I want to
die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.

I don’t carry a gun because I’m a cowboy. I carry a gun
because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy.

I don’t carry a gun to make me feel like a man. I carry a gun
because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.

I don’t carry a gun because I feel inadequate. I carry a gun
because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.

I don’t carry a gun because I love it. I carry a gun
because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.

“Police Protection” is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves.

Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate
the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.

_____________________________________________

Personally, I carry a gun because I’m too young to die and too old to take an ass kickin’.

John Steinbeck issued a warning that all should remember:
"Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

37 posted on 06/28/2008 4:37:24 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: tcostell

>If the State of New Jersey had recognized this woman’s constitutionally protected individual right to “bear arms” then she might be alive today.<

You know, I have been reading this nonsense for years and I have had enough. Anyone who lives in fear of another man and doesn’t have the guts and brains to arm themselves with the proper tools to remedy the situation is stupid. Yes, stupid. To think that you would let some state official hundreds of miles away from the situation determine whether you should carry a concealed firearm is ridiculous! Being alive is a much better choice than being dead. If you have to break a law to protect yourself, then for chrissakes do it!


38 posted on 06/28/2008 5:03:15 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Well I like girls with southern accents, as long as it’s not too drawn out.


39 posted on 06/28/2008 5:08:54 PM PDT by wastedyears (Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
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To: B4Ranch
In New Jersey the decision to carry a firearm illegal is a question weighing probabilities. You have to measure the probability of it helping you against the probability of it getting you sent to jail for a minimum of 5 years.

It might seem like an easy decision for you, but here, where we are essentially living in a police state and are all constantly coming into contact with law enforcement, it's not quite as simple as you make it sound. If you feel otherwise when you come to our state, by all means let me know, and I'll come visit you in prison.

40 posted on 06/28/2008 5:11:16 PM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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