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GOP reps. advised to avoid party brand
Politico.com ^ | 6/27/08 | Mike Allen

Posted on 06/27/2008 8:21:17 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge
I can't believe the ineptness in this party.

You have what is becoming a national economic crisis over energy and food costs, Democrats in charge of Congress and openly displaying their bald faced liberalism/idiocy on a host of issues detrimental to the American public at large and the GOP’s election strategy is basically to stand in the outhouse and pray they don't get slaughtered at the polls.

How about developing a cohesive message both national AND local and taking the liberal moonbats in Congress on point by point and hammer away until November. If something like this was played right they could even drag McCain along kicking and screaming and closer to our side.

41 posted on 06/27/2008 11:23:21 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: NormsRevenge
Traditional Republican messages essentially did not work in these campaigns

Wow. That looks ominous. The NRCC is advising against running as a pro-God, pro-life, pro-gun, pro-border, and pro-taxcut Republican. These are the "negative perception of the national GOP," as seen by independents and rats. They comprise about 65% of the voters.

Conservatives make up about 65% of the rest: the GOP voters. Some hard line conservatives do not even recognize the national GOP as pro-God, pro-life, pro-gun, pro-border, or pro-taxcut. Some conservatives have made it clear they are fed up with the GOP. Because they are staying home, the GOP must and will move left in order to capture enough independents(RINO/DINO) voters to regain power. When socialist Barry Osama or centrist McCain are elected President that will be proof positive, to both parties, that the American electorate is moving to the left.

I can't bear to think what freak of nature the rats will dig up, assemble from parts, and plant a lightning rod into in 2012 or 2016.

There were very few strong conservatives in the House and almost none in the Senate in 2004. After 2006 rats now occupy the seats of Denny Hastert, J D Hayworth, Rick Santorum, Tom DeLay, and John Hostettler. Those were some heavy duty conservatives. In 2008 the number of Republican seats up for grabs is larger then the rat seats in the Senate ( 23 to 12.) The GOP house members are stepping down 26 to 7 rats.

When conservatives only comprise 50% of the GOP, and are represented by an even smaller GOP minority in Congress, we will be faced with a choice.

  1. Sit back and let the rats and RINOs represent us.
  2. Start a 3rd party (The 2 parties rarely agree on anything EXCEPT that there should only be 2 parties. They have rigged the elections to make it almost impossible for a 3rd party to win,)
  3. or support one of the 2 major parties that most closely aligns itself with us.
Disgruntled conservatives might only return to the GOP when thing get Carteresque again.

And that will suck.

42 posted on 06/27/2008 11:36:29 PM PDT by Once-Ler (If 99% of elected officials fall into your definition of socialism, then give up. You lost already.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Did you see what this pantload in Oregon is doing? Gordon Smith (ACU rating of 48 in 2007) is running an ad touting his work with Senator Obama and his eagerness to “reach across the aisle to get things done”.

Wow, do I ever hope that p.o.s. gets purged.


43 posted on 06/27/2008 11:36:31 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Yeah Gordon Smith seems like the worst RINO of them all. I won’t feel bad if he doesn’t get re-elected, that’s for sure.

As for the rest, I guess it depends on how they distance themselves. If they distance themselves by going to the right of McCain, or if the voters in their district are Republicans who don’t like McCain so they don’t want to appear with him, then that’s OK. But if they distance themselves by moving left and trying to make like there’s no difference between them and Democrats then they don’t deserve to win and I don’t think they will either. Why would a voter choose a dishonest fake Democrat when they could choose an actual Democrat who at least is proud of his ideas. Run as an honest and proud conservative or let someone else do it. I don’t think a lot of people want to vote for a boot licker.


44 posted on 06/28/2008 4:54:51 AM PDT by CatherinePPP
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To: NormsRevenge

“...run essentially as independents, showing empathy for voters, emphasizing local issues and ignoring many traditional party campaign practices.”

Hi, I’m a eunuch, and I’ll do whatever the democrats tell me.


45 posted on 06/28/2008 5:08:25 AM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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To: henkster; Squantos
I agree with you! This is going to be short because I'm using a PDA with an aggrvating tiny keyboard.

I spent 7 of 13 yrs USAF/AD in an intel - comm support roll, and a good portion of that was network security and info warfare. Although I agree with you on the dismal prospects for the future of this nation, I also know that nothing is exactly as it seems and that a very few people of fortitude can change the course of history.
46 posted on 06/28/2008 5:49:07 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: NormsRevenge
"emphasizing local issues whenever possible"

Campaign as if you are running for Mayor.

47 posted on 06/28/2008 5:51:48 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: hiredhand; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Jeff Head; Travis McGee

We vote on a persons record and never on their promises........an never ever ever forget the domestic enemies clause of your oath. It’s a legal option we hope is never played yet the socialist rats seem too ignore that possibility ! The apathy of today’s voter is too go in an mash R or D on the chad abuse machine and get back too waiting in line for their next handout. The right too vote means taking time for your own future living conditions, wealth and families security. Too many folks do a drive by at the voting booth as others do a drive by on liberty by not voting at all !

Woof !


48 posted on 06/28/2008 6:25:04 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

Well said!


49 posted on 06/28/2008 7:33:29 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Squantos

I can buy into that. Carry on...


50 posted on 06/28/2008 7:37:50 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: DoughtyOne

There are some good ones running. If your’s isn’t, find some in other districts and help them. A lot. The post that term limits contributed to this problem is intesting: strong Class of ‘94 people leaving as promised and giving an easy ‘in’ to GOP weaklings.


51 posted on 06/28/2008 8:12:34 AM PDT by Kanzan
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To: NormsRevenge
Yes, by all means. Let's campaign not on what we believe in, but what we think you think we should believe in. That way, we'll have power for the sake of power, and we'll get some democrats to vote for us. Ain't it cool? ... What? What about our conservative base? Oh, they'll understand. They won't like it, but they'll understand. They always do.
It shows you that conservatives that are unwilling to compromise their morals or integrity have no home in the GOP anymore.
52 posted on 06/28/2008 9:15:36 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...And we, poor fools, demand truth's noon, who scarce can bear its crescent moon.)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

It shows you that conservatives that are unwilling to compromise their morals or integrity have no home in the GOP anymore.

ain’t that a helluva note ;-?


53 posted on 06/28/2008 10:07:18 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: sergeantdave

Senator Eunuch, glad to meet ya.

I guess beside spineless, we could add,, uhh.. yaknow ****less as well.


54 posted on 06/28/2008 10:09:50 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Kanzan

That was an interesting observation, Class of 94. I agree that we should be helping good ones get elected, but I’m here to tell you that if McCain gets elected, it won’t do us a darned bit of good. They’ll get no support from him, and they’ll be coerced to support some of his tripe to boot.


55 posted on 06/28/2008 4:54:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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