Posted on 06/27/2008 2:04:21 PM PDT by EveningStar
Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal has signed a stealth creationist bill into law, and American educational standards take a huge step backward: Science law could set tone for Jindal.
The creationist front group called the Discovery Institute is quietly crowing, and maintaining the fiction that the bill is not religiously-based.
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It has for over 150 years, surviving actual scientific scrutiny, and that's still happening. The problem here is that this bill isn't about science, but about evangelism. That is the stated goal of the Discovery Institute.
From the DI guy in the article:
“This bill is not a license to propagandize against something they don’t like in science,” West said. “Someone who uses materials to inject religion into the classroom is not only violating the Constitution, they are violating the bill.”From a Discovery Institute document marked "Top Secret":
Design theory promises to reverse the stifling dominance of the materialist worldview, and to replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions. ... We will also pursue possible legal assistance in response to resistance to the integration of design theory into public school science curricula. ... [a governing goal is] To replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by God.The lie is incredibly obvious. This is the champion of Intelligent Design, a bunch of liars.
We didn't have a problem until it got down to having to be your religion.
Yes there is. Link
Evolution is not an exact science and is full of holes that can't be proved except by fabricating evidence.
Yes it is.
Evos are just like left wing a**holes, they thing because they say something it is true. Goodbye.
That remninds me of most of the Creationists on the thread more than the Evolutionists.
No science, huh?
Maybe you would prefer the 1st amentment to our Constitution.
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
****Under our form of government, we elect representatives. They make the “informed” decisions. I see no limit on where they should be denied the right to include religious beliefs, NOR EXCLUDE them from the discussion!
In the topic posing, it mentions that the vast majority of those residents polled, agreed with the decision, after their legislators overwhelming approved it. I think that trumps your personal pet peeves. At least, it does in America.
You can call your religion "science", too. That doesn't mean it is.
So the Flat Earth Society should have a place in Louisiana science classes? Those who say the moon landings were faked? Those who teach that the earth is hollow and a civilization lives there? All should be welcome in science classes in the interest of “open and objective discussion of scientific theories”?
You're full of it. You're trying your best to ram your religion, Darwinism, down our throats. I worship the same God as our Founders. I read the same Bible. I have sat in the same church pews, where some have spent time. I know in Whom I believe, and it is quite evident you believe in yourself. If it was good enough for those guys, it's good enough for me. Give me that old time religion!
Good night, Fred...
Or what about belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Or maybe the belief that the Earth was created as a giant supercomputer in order to figure out the ultimate question?
How nice.
I’d never have someone like you working for me. I prefer what is commonly known as “thinkers”.
How can we teach something that’s not science in a science classroom. It’d be like teaching communism in economics. It’s just not right.
There’s no religion called Darwinism. Science uses unbiased logic to explore the known events of the physical world to establish plausible explanations. The idea that people were created whole and untouched in an instant has no supporting evidence. So science can’t very well accept it.
If you want to argue that then start up a vanity thread over in Religion and I'll join you. We'll let the theologians have a look at it, and see if they think it's "Darwinism" and if I'm trying to "ram it down your throat".
On the contrary, Creationism can not survive in a free arena of debate so it requires legislators to demand it no longer be laughed out of classrooms and be taught as valid science.
Like I said, want to teach creationism in class, even though it contravenes science, then teach communism in economics and astrology in Physics.
Because all motion is relative to the observer. The Earth moves...if we view it from a heliocentric model. The Earth is fixed, if we view it from a geocentric model. The Sun and Earth move if we view it from Sirius. The relationship and interaction is fixed in physics.
You do know the Big Bang was formulated by a priest. It’s meant to be a simplistic explanation to explain what is observed about the universe. If the Catholic Church says the Big Bang is a-okay...I don’t see what the hubbub is about.
Really? What was so incredibly non-thinking about that post to motivate you to commit an unprovoked personal attack contrary to the rules of this board?
Creation is not a fallacy. The Bible teaches it.
Actual science? Evolution is not actual science. It is a false science. Creationism is the true science.
“Creationism is the true science.”
LOL - Creationism can in no way withstand the rigor of scientific examination. If you believe it can, you are woefully misinformed.
Dinosaurs and people were around at the same time. The Bible says that land animals, Adam, and Eve were created on the sixth day (Gen. 1:24-31; 2:7-25). And what about behemoth and leviathan (Job 40:15-41:34)? They were dinosaurs.
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