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To: Gondring
Scalia had fun with this (e.g., "Grotesque"), but it's weaselly at times, too.

Scalia spent a lot of time on this one. It was much longer than I thought it would be, and I believe much longer than necessary.

Let's face it. Everyone knows what the 2nd Amendment means and what the founders intended and HOW IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ACCEPTED IN THE NATIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS. Scalia knows it, you know it, Sarah Brady knows it, and Diane Feinstein knows it. The anti-gun positions have been developed OVER TIME more as an attempt to create a reality rather than describe one.

The only people who might not know it are the moonbat followers who have convinced themselves of the fig leaf "militia" argument and are "true believers" of the dogma without much actual rational consideration of it.

Diane Feinstein and Sarah Brady are not morons, they know they are trying to create a new reality via word-smithing and not describing what is and has been.

Scalia did have fun with it....using similar word-smithing and parsing to poke holes in the anti-gun dogma. It was entertaining, and well deserved, but I'm not sure that its a good idea in the long run. A much shorter and to the point refutation of the alternate reality would probably stand the test of time better and provide fewer seams to pry at. The word-smithing game makes it easier for the other side to crack open your actual argument later.
965 posted on 06/26/2008 5:18:21 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
Diane Feinstein and Sarah Brady are not morons, they know they are trying to create a new reality via word-smithing and not describing what is and has been.

Agreed. It's definitely deliberate "misunderstanding" on their part. Scalia did have fun with it....using similar word-smithing and parsing to poke holes in the anti-gun dogma. It was entertaining, and well deserved, but I'm not sure that its a good idea in the long run. A much shorter and to the point refutation of the alternate reality would probably stand the test of time better and provide fewer seams to pry at. The word-smithing game makes it easier for the other side to crack open your actual argument later.

Agreed.

But then again, Justice Scalia required some word games to get his "restrictions" message in there, too.

969 posted on 06/26/2008 5:37:15 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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“Oy - are you F’n nuts? This is clearly an infringement, go pound sand.” ...would have sufficed.

Unfortuneately, I am not on the USSC. And not likely to be, LOL.


976 posted on 06/26/2008 5:50:40 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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