Posted on 06/25/2008 8:52:46 AM PDT by pissant
Is Barack Obama a United States citizen, and is he eligible to run for President of the United States, or did he present a forged government document to verify a citizenship he does not possess? For a few weeks now these questions have been swirling around the internet. The questions have become so prominent that Obama addressed the issue on his Fight the Smears website. Of course, in typical Obama fashion it is becoming clear that nothing is as it seems.
His site says the following:
The truth about Baracks birth certificate
Lie: Obama Is Not a Natural Born Citizen
Truth: Senator Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, after it became a state on August 21st, 1959. Obama became a citizen at birth under the first section of the 14th Amendment All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
There it is, the Certification of Live Birth. Case closed. Or is it? Two sources have raised what has proven to be very interesting, and troubling questions. Polarik, a blogger from Townhall.com, and the israelinsider, have both posted compelling evidence that can no longer be ignored, or brushed off as ridiculous.
Friday, June 20, 2008, Polarik, who claims to have extensive experience in the world of computers, printers, and typewriters, wrote given a set of printed letters, I can discern what kind of device made them. Printer output is quite different from the text created by a graphics program, and even if a document looks official, it may not be. He goes on to claim that anyone could have produced this document, and then proceeds to point out every flaw imaginable with this alleged certificate. Because his article is so detailed, and technical, I advise my readers to follow the link and read it for yourself. Have no fear. He has visuals to help you make sense of it.
Yesterday morning I read an article in the Israelinsider, written by Reuven Koret. Korets article eliminates any lingering question as to whether or not the Certificate of Live Birth is a forgery/fake.
Koret begins his article by linking to Photobucket, an image gathering website, where millions upload images to share with others, or post in various places such as websites, etc. It shows variations of the same Certificate of Live Birth presented by the Obama camp. One has Obamas birthplace listed as Antarctica, while another shows one issued by the government of North Korea. This certainly lends credibility to Polariks argument that the Certificate of Live Birth was created by some sort of computer program, that anyone can use.
According to Koret, Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health made clear that no birth certification, or certification of live birth is transmitted electronically, and that all certificates of live birth contain an embossed seal and registrars signature on the back of the document.
He then compares the 1961 Certification of Live Birth, presented as authentic on the Obama website, to one certifying the Hawaiian birth of a Patricia Decosta. The similarities and differences are quite noticeable.
Both contain a green bamboo background, though one is noticeably darker. Both contain borders that are noticeably different. Obamas is green, and Decostas is black. Polarik did a fabulous job of pointing out the obvious flaws on the border of Obamas alleged certificate.
The most compelling and disturbing items of note are the lack of an embossed seal and the registrars signature, on the copy being presented by Obama. Decostas seal, even faded with time is quite prominent, as is the registrars signature that bleeds through to the front of the document. The lack of these two items makes it clear that the copy presented by Obama is in fact a fake.
This raises many more questions and concerns. Why would Obama knowingly lie, and present a forged government document as official? Why does Obama refuse to present his real birth certificate, for inspection the actual piece of paper that can be handled by reporters? Is Barack Obama a citizen of the United States? Is he eligible for the highest office of this great nation? Lastly, what laws has Obama and his camp broken by knowingly presenting a forged government document?
Huh? WTH does whether or not he was baptised into a Christian church have to do with ANYTHING ??? He’s running for CIC, not Pastor in Chief.
His draft registration, on the other hand, is a legitimate question, from which should come some info on his birth certificate.
Did Obama really present that birth certificate or did it just appear on the Daily KOS? Are you sure that this isn’t another trap, designed to make fools of the opposition?
Sorry, nikos1121, I didn’t mean for that to go to you.
Methinks it is very true.
Then we can decide whether or not to keep plugging away at this "story."
I believe it was posted by KOS but presented by Barry. Is that right, gang?
Speculation that BHO was not born in Hawaii. Look to Canada or possibly Kenya.
Now consider all the above and the fact that there is confusion over what hospital Obama was really born in.
I think that's probably right. We ought to resolve this. It should have been resolved before the primaries. Someone should be responsible for certifying this, with a public notice to support it.
What are you waiting for? Be sure to let us know how it turns out.
We are plugging away because the document presented was a photoshop hackjob. He may very well have been born in Hawaii.
Presented by Barry’s very own fight the smears website.
Go to the Date Filed By Registrar date, move in a line to the right to just above the "birth on any court" phase and look at the back ground. Need to zoom in to see that the back ground patter is different.
Let me know what you think this is.
Who did you tell besides all of us?
I sent to Drudge the other day. Hopefully others are following suit.
That "rule" is the United States Constitution. If they're going to "waive the rule," they might as well waive elections, free speech, due process, and everything else in the Constitution while they're at it.
-PJ
Would you at least agree that it is uncertified?
If not, would you at least agree that it is altered, and therefore invalid for any legal purpose?
-PJ
What do you make of this argument that I posited a few days ago?
Id like to see more pressure put on the state of Hawaii to protect and defend the authenticity of its legal documents by exposing this as a fraud.-PJI can understand not wanting to release vital statistics about a person, but it must be in Hawaii's own interest to expose a forgery being passed around as an authentic Hawaiian document. Hawaii should owe no obligation to a person named on a forged document. It is Hawaii's responsibility as a government to expose a fraud done in their name and protect the legitimacy of its legal documents for its own citizens' sake.
It's time for Hawaii to make a statement about the authenticity of this document.
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