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1 posted on 06/25/2008 7:58:33 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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Not at all. You guys don't get it. The Obama minions are going to blow this off, just as the Dems blew off every new (and scary) revelation about Bubba in the late 1990s. I don't care what "pwoof" you have that he isn't a citizen (not that I buy this argument), it won't matter and you're wasting your time. Moreover, it detracts, I think, from the only hope of beating Obama, which is to force him into increasingly ridiculous policy statements that are at odds with a large majority of the public.

McCain cannot beat Obama, only Obama can beat Obama. And he can easily do so, but not if we distract with Ayers and birth certificates. The public simply doesn't care about that.

42 posted on 06/25/2008 8:28:23 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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Not at all. You guys don't get it. The Obama minions are going to blow this off, just as the Dems blew off every new (and scary) revelation about Bubba in the late 1990s. I don't care what "pwoof" you have that he isn't a citizen (not that I buy this argument), it won't matter and you're wasting your time. Moreover, it detracts, I think, from the only hope of beating Obama, which is to force him into increasingly ridiculous policy statements that are at odds with a large majority of the public.

McCain cannot beat Obama, only Obama can beat Obama. And he can easily do so, but not if we distract with Ayers and birth certificates. The public simply doesn't care about that.

43 posted on 06/25/2008 8:28:27 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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I’m going to throw this out there...

Obama is a licensed lawyer in Illinois as of 2008. I did not look into the requirements to sit for the bar exam or to be sorn in. Perhaps there is a birth record with the Illinois Supreme Court.


45 posted on 06/25/2008 8:30:43 AM PDT by Lobbyist (I want my American dream!!!!)
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To: Para-Ord.45; M. Espinola

If, indeed, the document is a forgery, the O man is in very serious trouble. Forging a Hawaiian birth certificate would be a federal felony especially because citizenship is a requirement for high office. I cannot believe the FBI is not busily investigating these allegations.


52 posted on 06/25/2008 8:35:20 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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The state should have the copy. Let’s see it.


54 posted on 06/25/2008 8:37:35 AM PDT by onedoug
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We have a Federal Election Commission to investigate campaign finance issues. Is there not a comparable federal agency that verifies the minimum credentials of a candidate?


58 posted on 06/25/2008 8:39:55 AM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (We're all mavericks now.)
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59 posted on 06/25/2008 8:40:51 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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There is nothing natural about Obama.


65 posted on 06/25/2008 8:46:17 AM PDT by CWWren (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress....but I repeat myself.)
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Beware of red herrings that distract people from the real issues. B Hussein Obama may just be toying with conservatives and will release the real certificate, which has the same info as this one, just before the election and tell the American people that conservatives are just a bunch of paranoid jerks who are trying to embarrass him. A great ploy to win over the independents who are undecided.
74 posted on 06/25/2008 8:54:41 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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It is possible to get a U.S. Passport without a birth certificate by filling out a form noting that you do not have a birth certificate and having people attest to your birth in the United States. Another method is to have a certificate of live birth from a consulate overseas and, if necessary (depening upon the circumstances of the birth parents), naturalization papers. While most people need a birth certificate to apply for a driver's license today, that has not always been the case, particularly for teenage drivers until the huge influx of crimaliens.
85 posted on 06/25/2008 9:16:21 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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This is a reply that I posted to Pissant’s latest thread on this blatant forgery by the Obamination thugs.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2036197/posts?page=33#33

To: pissant
As I have posted before, there are 3 things that say “Beware of Lying Skunk” with his so called birth certificate:

1. The lack of the embossed seal on the certificate as noted in this statement: “According to Koret, Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health made clear that no birth certification, or certification of live birth is transmitted electronically, and that all certificates of live birth contain an embossed seal and registrar’s signature on the back of the document.”

2. The blacked out number, is nothing but bs.

3. Was the word African used to describe his father’s race in 1961? If so his father might have been a white South African or whatever.

His handlers and MSM abettors knew about this serious problem, and that is why the Compost and others tried to raise doubts about McCain being an American a month or so earlier.


86 posted on 06/25/2008 9:20:48 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Kerry was a Uber Liberal, Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas makes Kerry look like Jesse Helms!)
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Okay, I'll take another swing at this one:
If Barack Hussein Obama was born to Ann Dunham in Hawaii in 1961, there is no question that he is a natural-born American citizen since Ann Dunham was an American citizen and Hawaii has been an American possession since 1898.

If Obama was born outside of the United States or any of its outlying possessions, the following statute (which became law on October 25, 1994) applies to him and indicates that he is a natural-born American citizen from the point of view of U.S. law:

a. As amended by Public Law 103-416 on October 25, 1994, section 301 states as follows with respect to persons born abroad:

b. Sec. 301. The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

...

g. a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669; 22 U.S.C. 288) by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date;

Note that this condition applies retroactively to Obama, as the following condition shows:

l. RETROACTIVE APPLICATION:
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), the immigration and nationality laws of the United States shall be applied (to persons born before, on, or after the date of the enactment of this Act) as though the amendment made by subsection (a), and subsection (b), had been in effect as of the date of their birth, except that the retroactive application of the amendment and that subsection shall not affect the validity of citizenship of anyone who has btained citizenship under section 1993 of the Revised Statutes (as in effect before the enactment of the Act of May 24, 1934 (48 Stat. 797)).

(2) The retroactive application of the amendment made by subsection (a), and subsection (b), shall not confer citizenship on, or affect the validity of any denaturalization, deportation or exclusion action against, any person who is or was excludable from the United States under section 212(a)(3)(E) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1182 (a)(3)(E)) (or predecessor provision) or who was excluded from, or who would not have been eligible for admission to, the United States under the Displaced Persons 1948 or under section 14 of the Refugee Relief Act of 1953.

This information comes from pp. 15-17 of the following U.S. State Department document:

7 FAM 1130
ACQUISITION OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP BY
BIRTH ABROAD TO U.S. CITIZEN PARENT

which is available in PDF format here:

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86757.pdf

In order to show that Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen, somebody is going to have to show that one of the following conditions is true:

(1) Obama is not the son of Ann Dunham;

(2) Obama is the son of Ann Dunham, but Ann Dunham was not an American citizen at the time of Obama's birth;

(3) Obama is the son of Ann Dunham and Ann Dunham was an American citizen at the time of Obama's birth, but Ann Dunham did not satisfy the residency requirement of condition (g) necessary for conferring natural-born citizenship on her offspring (that is, five years physical residence in the United States or any of its outlying possessions, at least two years of which were after attaining the age of fourteen).

According to the information I've seen, none of these conditions is true. Hence I conclude that, as things now stand, U.S. law recognizes Barack Obama as a natural-born U.S. citizen, and so he is eligible to run for the Presidency.

Now this is all separate and apart from the issue whether the document posted on Obama's website is genuine or not. I don't know anything about that. I've addressed only the question of Obama's natural-born citizen status.


89 posted on 06/25/2008 9:28:55 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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INTREP


91 posted on 06/25/2008 9:40:32 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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Congress would just amend the constitution to allow “exceptions”.


101 posted on 06/25/2008 10:22:32 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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This needs to be repeated. Lefty blogs are contradicting the following statement saying that Okubo verified that the Obama birth certificate is authentic.

Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health, told Israel Insider: "At this time there are no circumstances in which the State of Hawaii Department of Health would issue a birth certification or certification of live birth only electronically." And, she added, "In the State of Hawaii all certified copies of certificates of live birth have the embossed seal and registrar signature on the back of the document."

Someone is lying here who is it?

118 posted on 06/25/2008 12:13:35 PM PDT by Red Steel
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BTTT


128 posted on 06/25/2008 2:36:11 PM PDT by lunarbicep (Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. - Mark Twain)
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**Because if Barack Hussein Obama II does not produce definitive proof of his “natural born” American citizenship with original, verifiable documents, he will be setting the stage for a very public battle over his personal credibility, the basic legitimacy of his candidacy, and its possible criminality.**

And the Clintoons will be there to pick up the pieces!


130 posted on 06/25/2008 2:50:12 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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The new Dan Rather purveyer of forged documents: the scary looking compulsively dishonest Kos!


139 posted on 06/25/2008 11:28:29 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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