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home invasion suspects could possibly be mexican military or police
kfyi ^ | june 24, 2008 | jd hayworth

Posted on 06/24/2008 5:53:53 PM PDT by machogirl

home invasion suspects (3 caught) may be mexican military or police

they may have been trying to ambush phx police

the home invasion killed one, drug trade suspected

at least one person, in full-body armor and up to three (3) still on the loose


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KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; aliens; arizona; armedcitizen; banglist; borders; corruption; crime; immigrantlist; mexico; wod
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To: Colorado Doug
you obviously do not live in a high crime city... what I am talking about is the reality on the streets here in phoenix.... and lets face it to deny the fact that there are not dangerous people here in the US is being blind to the facts... if a cop goes and knocks on an ms-13 gang house anywhere here in the US they are dead.... We have had officers here in Phoenix shot point blank in broad daylight by gang bangers from Mexico..... but you believe they should be given fair notice...

this is not a safe world... never has been never will be.... if you sit there and believe that officers putting themselves at a tactical disadvantage is going to save lives or stop these people from doing what they are doing you are in denial.

btw nice pic of a FEDERAL office defiantly overreacting during the Clinton admin....

81 posted on 06/24/2008 9:13:04 PM PDT by Americanwolf (You don't believe we have been invaded by Mexico?! ask the rank and file Phoenix PD what they think!)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

***Patton is on the left, btw.***

Bonus Army


82 posted on 06/24/2008 9:16:39 PM PDT by wastedyears (Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Harley - I'm waitin' for you. There is nothing in this world more ferocious than an "attack yorkie"! Let's go get'em, my macho guy!


83 posted on 06/24/2008 9:18:30 PM PDT by yorkie ( Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....It's about learning to dance in the rain.)
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To: Diogenesis

I don’t know who the guys in the middle and on the left are. I know the one on the right is Kennedy.


84 posted on 06/24/2008 9:19:07 PM PDT by wastedyears (Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
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To: Colorado Doug
“Where are the Ninjas when there are real people with real guns like Columbine? Oh, outside hiding in the parking lot.”

do you know anything of armed response and how to approach it safely...
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you comment about columbine.... is o a ad hoc attack on those officers... they knew that more than 10 people had been shot... you don't go rushing into a situation like that you get you Intel and attack it logically and safely that will limit that amount of damage/casualties you take.. both for those being held captive and your own forces...

but it appears by your comments that you have the TV version of what cops are in your reality vs. what man others of us see/experience on a daily basis....

perhaps if you red the FBI crime statistics and other police and law enforcement information about what is going on in some parts of our country it may afford you a better understanding of the reality of the world around us and not seeing it as a fairy tale world...

85 posted on 06/24/2008 9:19:14 PM PDT by Americanwolf (You don't believe we have been invaded by Mexico?! ask the rank and file Phoenix PD what they think!)
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To: HiJinx

call me slow, what scene?

the news media
phx pd
homeland security?

i’m really curious :) if you can hint.....


86 posted on 06/24/2008 9:22:00 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

hi jinx knows people, and is a darn nice guy to boot!


87 posted on 06/24/2008 9:22:41 PM PDT by Americanwolf (You don't believe we have been invaded by Mexico?! ask the rank and file Phoenix PD what they think!)
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To: Americanwolf

ah, then we should get some answers, janet won’t give us any


88 posted on 06/24/2008 9:23:58 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: HiJinx

gracias :)


89 posted on 06/24/2008 9:26:40 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: HiJinx

BTTT ..... to keep an eye on this thread. Thanks, Jinxie...


90 posted on 06/24/2008 9:34:54 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Typical Whitey Gramma just like Obamies!)
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To: Americanwolf
we are being invaded it is only a question of when not if that we have armed combat on the streets....

That would be tonight, or previously.

The dead guy would probably call it "armed combat" if he could speak.

91 posted on 06/24/2008 9:46:15 PM PDT by meadsjn (Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: Americanwolf
You do have a point. The SWAT forces took no casualties at Columbine. That is good. Unfortunately, while the SWAT force was "collecting intel" the kids were taking lots of casualties. I'm sure that the dead kids families appreciate the fact that it was a well thought out response
That's really not my point though. That was all just very sad and unfortunate for everyone involved

perhaps if you read the FBI crime statistics Please show me any statistic, any statistic that shows law enforcement to be as dangerous as construction, convenience store clerk or even a taxi driver.

Can you tell me how wearing a hood over one's head offers any sort of safety enhancement? To the contrary, it obscures vision and hearing.

No-knock raids are over rated too. Look at Waco. Why not just quietly arrest the guy at the grocery store instead of incinerating all the women and children that they were there to "save?"

I'm just saying that police would get far more respect if they went back to dressing and acting like real men, Policemen instead of like little boys.

I have no problem with arming police to the teeth, bulletproof vests, howitzers if needed or anything else. I just want to see police looking and acting like police and not trying to look like military or dressing up like thugs. Look at the Elian Gonzales picture. The guy looks like a fool.

MS 13 gang house, that might be a different story but the tactics used against a threat like that should not spill over, under any circumstances to routine busts like they do.

92 posted on 06/24/2008 9:55:44 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: meadsjn

point taken......except it sounds like he brought a bong to a gun fight....


93 posted on 06/24/2008 10:01:15 PM PDT by Americanwolf (You don't believe we have been invaded by Mexico?! ask the rank and file Phoenix PD what they think!)
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To: Americanwolf
we are being invaded it is only a question of when not if that we have armed combat on the streets

And it's rumored that Obama when elected will want to confiscate our weapons to make our amigos to the south feel mucho mejor.

94 posted on 06/24/2008 10:01:41 PM PDT by Marauder (Damn the Bolsheviks to hell.)
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To: machogirl

still can’t find anything local on this, either tv web sites or the print media, there is however, info on every site about heather locklear in az for depression

the media, congress, our elected officials ignoring what the leak on the southern border is doing to our country is enough to cause depression, but i don’t have 6K a week to go to a spa


95 posted on 06/24/2008 10:03:17 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Americanwolf; HiJinx

Yes, “Hijinx is a darned nice guy” - I can verify that comment.


96 posted on 06/24/2008 10:07:11 PM PDT by yorkie ( Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....It's about learning to dance in the rain.)
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To: Colorado Doug
Taking you comment about Waco and why not arrest him in a grocery store...

consider the fact that in this day and age how could the officer tell if he has a weapon or God forbid a suicide belt on... there is less damage to the populous if this individual is surprised and arrested at home where he feels safe vs.. him being in public where his awareness may be heightened or if he feels corners he takes out his closest target of opportunity before he is apprehended...

these tactics are necessary in this day and age the days of good people is passed at least for now...

97 posted on 06/24/2008 10:08:49 PM PDT by Americanwolf (You don't believe we have been invaded by Mexico?! ask the rank and file Phoenix PD what they think!)
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To: machogirl
“according to bad guys, they ran out of ammunition, none left for phx pd”
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I think it was posted that 100 rounds were fired,,,

This ain't much ammo for what may be 6 guys,,,

15 rounds,or so,per man ?,,,

They may have hidden more of course,,,

I bet the local LEOs find more,,,

This is sure something to watch closely...

98 posted on 06/24/2008 10:15:22 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: kimmie7

i don’t think that he’s home, at least on this issue


99 posted on 06/24/2008 10:16:07 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

you’re right, up to 6 guys, that wouldn’t be enough

according to what i heard on kfyi, (i think that this is from the internal pd memo), that they ran out of ammo

it is curious, and that is an interesting question


100 posted on 06/24/2008 10:17:56 PM PDT by machogirl
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