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To: Colorado Doug
“Where are the Ninjas when there are real people with real guns like Columbine? Oh, outside hiding in the parking lot.”

do you know anything of armed response and how to approach it safely...
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you comment about columbine.... is o a ad hoc attack on those officers... they knew that more than 10 people had been shot... you don't go rushing into a situation like that you get you Intel and attack it logically and safely that will limit that amount of damage/casualties you take.. both for those being held captive and your own forces...

but it appears by your comments that you have the TV version of what cops are in your reality vs. what man others of us see/experience on a daily basis....

perhaps if you red the FBI crime statistics and other police and law enforcement information about what is going on in some parts of our country it may afford you a better understanding of the reality of the world around us and not seeing it as a fairy tale world...

85 posted on 06/24/2008 9:19:14 PM PDT by Americanwolf (You don't believe we have been invaded by Mexico?! ask the rank and file Phoenix PD what they think!)
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To: Americanwolf
You do have a point. The SWAT forces took no casualties at Columbine. That is good. Unfortunately, while the SWAT force was "collecting intel" the kids were taking lots of casualties. I'm sure that the dead kids families appreciate the fact that it was a well thought out response
That's really not my point though. That was all just very sad and unfortunate for everyone involved

perhaps if you read the FBI crime statistics Please show me any statistic, any statistic that shows law enforcement to be as dangerous as construction, convenience store clerk or even a taxi driver.

Can you tell me how wearing a hood over one's head offers any sort of safety enhancement? To the contrary, it obscures vision and hearing.

No-knock raids are over rated too. Look at Waco. Why not just quietly arrest the guy at the grocery store instead of incinerating all the women and children that they were there to "save?"

I'm just saying that police would get far more respect if they went back to dressing and acting like real men, Policemen instead of like little boys.

I have no problem with arming police to the teeth, bulletproof vests, howitzers if needed or anything else. I just want to see police looking and acting like police and not trying to look like military or dressing up like thugs. Look at the Elian Gonzales picture. The guy looks like a fool.

MS 13 gang house, that might be a different story but the tactics used against a threat like that should not spill over, under any circumstances to routine busts like they do.

92 posted on 06/24/2008 9:55:44 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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