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2002 Memo Continues to Show Saddam’s Regime Tied to Al Queda
Flopping Aces ^ | 24 Jun ,2008 | Scott

Posted on 06/24/2008 5:17:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yet AGAIN there’s another document showing that Saddam’s regime was not only willing to work with Al Queda groups, but in fact did so.  This time, it’s a 2002 memo from Saddam’s regime to Al Queda’s strategic planner (often described as the real brains of the terror group alliance).

The “no ties” myth gets another shovel of dirt on its grave


HT Regimeofteror

TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedaandiraq; iraq; prewardocs; prewarintelligence; saddam

1 posted on 06/24/2008 5:17:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wow, I’m shocked I tell ya........

2 posted on 06/24/2008 5:19:36 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: jveritas; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; elhombrelibre; ...
Reported 2002 memo from Saddam Hussein regime to Zawahiri preceded Riyadh bombings

***********See the Document at the link****************

Despite the most recent attempt by the Democrat-led Senate Intelligence Committee to "report away" Saddam Hussein's links to terrorism, evidence reportedly from inside the former regime continues to reveal efforts by the former regime to cultivate ties with active terrorist groups. The most recent piece of evidence is provided by a Kurdish newspaper translated by MEMRI (story below, picture of document to left) and cited by AJ Strata and Gateway Pundit.

Kurdish Paper: Cooperation Between Saddam Regime, Al-Qaeda

The Kurdish daily Kurdistani Nwe has published a 2002 letter from the Iraqi presidency that it says proves that there was cooperation between the regime of Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda.

The letter, which appeared on the paper's front page, was published by the intelligence apparatus of the Iraqi presidency and discussed an intention to meet with Ayman Al-Zawahiri in order to examine a plan drawn up by the Iraqi presidency to carry out a "revenge operation" in Saudi Arabia.

2002 letter from the Iraqi presidency Source: (, June 20, 2008

It is worth noting that terror attacks in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia were conducted in May 2003 and were largely blamed on al Qaeda. It is also worth noting that Saddam Hussein's connections to Ayman al Zawahiri (though there is much more on this topic yet to be written) have been documented in numerous reports including the 9-11 Commission’s report and the recent IDA report. The recent IDA report also exposed Hussein’s terrorists capabilities and motives towards Saudi Arabia (internal documents discussed secret attacks on the Saudi Royal family, attacks on buildings in the country and terror plots coordinated by "Unit 999"). The extent of Hussein’s terror aspirations vs. Saudi Arabia, coupled with his previous financial links to al Qaeda #2’s Ayman al Zawahiri would indicate that this documents authenticity is at least plausible in terms of what else is known about the 2002 situations surrounding both al Qaeda (fury with the Saudis over their cooperation with the U.S.) and Saddam Hussein’s Iraq (being threatened with a U.S. led war).

That Saddam Hussein's regime had secret plans for terror attacks on buildings inside Saudi Arabia, had a special intelligence unit for conducting attacks inside Saudi Arabia, was meeting with the groups who shared the desire and capability to launch attacks against Saudi Arabia and eventually conducted such attacks may be merely coincidental to those who apply the standards of the U.S. legal system towards state sponsors of terrorism but the evidence, coupled with Hussein's treacherous past, should have long removed this presumption of innocence and burden of proof.


3 posted on 06/24/2008 5:21:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well, there you go again. Trying to confuse the left in the U.S. with facts.

4 posted on 06/24/2008 5:22:10 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well color me surprised. I'm sure that Barak ObaHamas will immediately call Pres Bush to apologize.

Closely followed by that numpty Dr. Demento Dean ..

5 posted on 06/24/2008 5:22:31 PM PDT by sofaman (Moses dragged us through the desert for 40 years to bring us to the one place in the ME with no oil.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach


6 posted on 06/24/2008 5:23:06 PM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect Hillary Clinton as its president has forfeited its right to exist.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is totally a fabricated lie issued by the ultra left to try to help President Bush, McCain and the GOP. Nothing is true unless the Washington Slimes and the New York Trash says it is. All leftist, including communists and socialists should ignore this article.

7 posted on 06/24/2008 5:27:12 PM PDT by antiunion person (President McCain, what a disgusting phrase.)
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To: All
OK...earlier thread:

al-Qaeda’s Zawahiri And Saddam Hussein Were Planning Attacks After 9-11

AND...a thread on a document Jveritas translated and a video :

Al Qaeda Document: Zarqawi Came to Iraq Before The War (Jveritas AQ Translated Video)

8 posted on 06/24/2008 5:38:35 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All

Al Qaeda Document: Zarqawi Came to Iraq Before The War To Prepare The Fight Against U.S

9 posted on 06/24/2008 5:42:38 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks, bfl

10 posted on 06/24/2008 5:53:19 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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This is a link to a PDF Document mentioned in the Reign of Terror writup at post #3 of this thread:

terror plots coordinated by "Unit 999")

******************************SELECTED EXCERPTS*******************

Executive Summary

The Iraqi Perspectives Project (IPP) review of captured Iraqi docu- ments uncovered strong evidence that links the regime of Saddam Hussein to re- gional and global terrorism. Despite their incompatible long-term goals, many terrorist movements and Saddam found a common enemy in the United States. At times these organizations worked together, trading access for capability. In the period after the 1991 Gulf War, the regime of Saddam Hussein supported a com- plex and increasingly disparate mix of pan-Arab revolutionary causes and emerg- ing pan-Islamic radical movements. The relationship between Iraq and forces of pan-Arab socialism was well known and was in fact one of the defining qualities of the Ba'ath movement.

But the relationships between Iraq and the groups advocating radical pan-Islamic doctrines are much more complex. This study found no "smoking gun" (i.e., direct connection) between Saddam's Iraq and al Qaeda. Saddam's interest in, and support for, non-state actors was spread across a variety of revolutionary, liberation, nationalist, and Islamic terrorist organizations. Some in the regime recognized the potential high internal and external costs of main- taining relationships with radical Islamic groups, yet they concluded that in some cases, the benefits of association outweighed the risks. A review of available Iraqi documents indicated the following:

The Iraqi regime was involved in regional and international terrorist • operations prior to OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM. The predominant targets of Iraqi state terror operations were Iraqi citizens, both inside and outside of Iraq.

On occasion, the Iraqi intelligence servIces directly targeted the re- • gime's perceived enemies, including non-Iraqis. Non-Iraqi casualties often resulted from Iraqi sponsorship of non-governmental terrorist groups.

Saddam's regime often cooperated directly, albeit cautiously, with ter- rorist groups when they believed such groups could help advance Iraq's long-term goals. The regime carefully recorded its connections to Palestinian terror organizations in numerous government memos. One such example documents Iraqi financial support to families of suicide bombers in Gaza and the West Bank.

State sponsorship of terrorism became such a routine tool of state • power that Iraq developed elaborate bureaucratic processes to monitor progress and accountability in the recruiting, training, and resourcing of terrorists. Examples include the regime's development, construc- tion, certification, and training for car bombs and suicide vests in 1999 and 2000.

From the beginning of his rise to power, one of Saddam's major objectives was to shift the regional balance of power favorably towards Iraq. After the 1991 Gulf War, pursuing this objective motivated Saddam and his regime to increase their cooperation with-and attempts to manipulate-Islamic fundamen- talists and related terrorist organizations. Documents indicate that the regime's use of terrorism was standard practice, although not always successful. From 1991 through 2003, the Saddam regime regarded inspiring, sponsoring, directing, and executing acts of terrorism as an element of state power.


his paper summarizes a detailed review of a unique source-the cap- tured documents and media files from the Harmony database, which have been s translated and analyzed. While Harmony holds most of the documents captured in Iraq, it is not an exhaustive list. Other documents were not available for this phase of the IPP study, e.g., those under the control of other US government agencies or others still being processed.

In complying with one of the original purposes for the IPP study, four volumes of primary source materials accompany Volume 1 (this paper). Volumes 2 though 5 contain the "raw" Harmony files cited in Volume 1, allowing further 6 review and study by other researchers. As new materials become available from captured documents and media and secondary (non-Iraqi) sources, alternative ex- planations may result from reviewing this material.

The Harmony database cannot address all questions relating to Iraq and terrorism: many potentially relevant documents were either inadvertently de- stroyed by Coalition forces during major combat actions or else were hidden or destroyed by members of the former regime. It should not be surprising, therefore, that some topics or events are lightly addressed or not covered at all. Despite these and other reasons, the number of relevant documents available to, and re- viewed for, this project remains impressive.

This paper examined the relationships between the regime of Saddam Hussein and terrorism in its local, regional, and global contexts. It is not a study of terrorism in general or of any specific terrorist group. Our research approaches this question from a unique source-the regime's own archives.

11 posted on 06/24/2008 5:58:51 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: jveritas; april15Bendovr; Marine_Uncle
OK, head is spinning here...but I think this document that the Kurdish paper published is not one that the IDA report has seen...based on what I scanned thru in the Executive summary list ..see link above....


Isn't this a smoking Gun Link between Saddam and Zarqawi?

12 posted on 06/24/2008 6:09:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: SoldierDad

Well, we are rewriting history as we speak. Please report to the Ministry of Truth for your five minutes of hate.

13 posted on 06/24/2008 6:35:41 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: All
Another related thread ...from July 2007:

Former Fedayeen Saddam officer became coordinator for Zarqawi, al Qaeda in Iraq

*********************EXCERPT INTRO*************************

Regime of Terror ^ | 7-15-07 | Mark E.

Posted on Sun 15 Jul 2007 02:17:12 PM PDT by ikez78


An interview published in Saturday's Washington Post, with a member of the Iraq insurgency, reveals another example of the deadly postwar cooperation between members of Saddam Hussein's former ruling party and al Qaeda in Iraq.

In the piece, written by Joshua Hartlow, the insurgent identifies himself as "Abu Sarhan" and revealed that he "had been an officer in the Fedayeen (pictured right via, the black-clad paramilitary force of the ousted government of Saddam Hussein."

"Sarhan" told his interviewers that he had risen to the level of "'general coordinator' between al-Qaeda in Iraq and the Omar Brigade, an insurgent group founded in July 2005 by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi." When and how "Sarhan" joined al Qaeda was not mentioned in the story.

(Excerpt) Read more at ...

14 posted on 06/24/2008 6:59:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

But the leftist will pooh pooh these findings away as insignificant. And for the most part the world shall remain ignorant of how the criminal’s mind operated. It is far easier to vent their anger at GWB.

15 posted on 06/24/2008 7:24:54 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
But the leftist will pooh pooh these findings away as insignificant.

This is true. They already have, since they are ignoring it.

16 posted on 06/24/2008 7:30:34 PM PDT by babyfreep
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To: IrishCatholic

What I’d like to say to the MT can’t be posted here without reprisal for using inappropriate langaugage.

17 posted on 06/25/2008 1:31:54 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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