Posted on 06/23/2008 7:57:18 PM PDT by kingattax
(also) Having a "Fruitcake" Interpretation of the Constitution
Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family -- who has stayed unusually quiet in this election cycle likely due to his loathing of presumptive GOP presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. -- will tomorrow attack Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, on Tuesday for a speech the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee delivered in 2006 to the liberal Christian group Call to Renewal.
The AP was given an advance copy of Dobson's 18-minute radio segment, which has already been taped, and will air Tuesday.
In it, Dobson hammers Obama's views of religion, and says the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee is trying to govern by the "lowest common denominator of morality," and calls Obama's views "a fruitcake interpretation of the Constitution."
Obama's original speech, delivered on June 28, 2006, (you can listen to it HERE) started with a discussion of his 2004 Senate opponent, Alan Keyes, who said that "Jesus Christ would not vote for Barack Obama."
Obama said that he "was urged by some of my liberal supporters not to take this statement seriously, to essentially ignore it….But what they didn't understand, however, was that I had to take Mr. Keyes seriously, for he claimed to speak for my religion, and my God. He claimed knowledge of certain truths." Moreover, "Keyes's implicit accusation that I was not a true Christian nagged at me."
The speech delves into Obama's view of the constructive role religion plays in society, beseeching "work that progressive leaders need to do" on the subject, followed by his views of "what conservative leaders need to do -- some truths they need to acknowledge."
That included "the critical role that the separation of church and state has played in preserving not only our democracy, but the robustness of our religious practice," Obama said, as well as "the increasing diversity of America's population, the dangers of sectarianism have never been greater. Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers."
"And even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools?" Obama asked. "Would we go with James Dobson's, or Al Sharpton's? Which passages of Scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is ok and that eating shellfish is abomination? How about Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount - a passage that is so radical that it's doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application? So before we get carried away, let's read our bibles. Folks haven't been reading their bibles."
Dobson responds, per the AP, that "I think he's deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own worldview, his own confused theology" and charges that Obama "is dragging Biblical understanding through the gutter."
"Am I required in a democracy to conform my efforts in the political arena to his bloody notion of what is right with regard to the lives of tiny babies?" Dobson asks. "What he's trying to say here is unless everybody agrees, we have no right to fight for what we believe."
In response to Dobson's comments, Joshua DuBois, national director of religious affairs for the Obama campaign responded in a statement: "Barack Obama is committed to reaching out to people of faith and standing up for American families, and a full reading of his 2006 Call to Renewal speech shows just that. Obama is proud to have the support of millions of Americans of faith and looks forward to working across religious lines to bring our country together."
Here is an excellent website on the Semon on the Mount which Obama seems to think is so radical. Scroll down toward the end and read about false prophets. Very interesting
www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article7110.asp
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Why did the media have to broadcast it all over the news? So that Thompson could be destroyed quickly.
Thompson got my vote in the primary even if he didn;t get along with Dobson, but now I see an interesting Dobson-Obama squabble. Will the "uniter" slam Dr. Dobson? Probably.
Given how evil Obama is, any verbal attack on Dobson should further galvanize Christians away from Obama.
Expressing my opinion of Dobson is construed as hellish? My my, we’re in a bad mood aren’t we.
“Barack Obama is committed to reaching out to people of faith and standing up for American families, and a full reading of his 2006 Call to Renewal speech shows just that. Obama is proud to have the support of millions of Americans of faith and looks forward to working across religious lines to bring our country together.”
Oh. A whole lotta crap that doesn’t mean anything. Ok
Its a critical tactical mistake to give out your arguements ahead of time.
The Dems have a lot of very intelligent people in their warroom who will be able to counter Dobson with BS if nothing else.
First, its not Dobson's test, its the Lord's test that Fred failed. Dobson was just the "watchman on the wall."
How many cannot be answered. Only those that have bared their hearts can be identified.
First, its not Dobson's test, its the Lord's test that Fred failed."
What did Fred do or not do that caused him to fail and who appointed Dobson to release the results? Dobson is no more a "watchman" than you, I or the man on the moon.
I'm no fan of Dobson; he has many shortcommings, but when he does something productive, let's give him credit.
The only people who are going to point out that Black Liberation Theology is not a true “Christian” theology, are the ministers.
Did you know that Unitarian churches, in general, not just Trinity, do not believe that in the deity of Christ?
All organized “Unitarians” believe that Jesus was a human prophet, equal with others such as Buddha, Mohammed, the Maharishi Mahesh, etc.
You obviously are not a student of God’s word.
Start with Isaiah to understand the term “watchman on the wall,” and who is to be a watchman.
Yes, that is exactly the same in the Black Liberation Theology.
Did you know that Harvard has been run by Unitarians since about 1808, when the Unitarians kicked out the Calvinists?
Your question presumes that a religious person cannot comment on political material. This is an erroneous position. As a minister, he is charged with leading his flock and with protecting them from the evils in this world. Part of that protection is doing his best to stop what he perceives as a false prophet who is bent on the destruction of his religion.
What you've done here is the same trick that Obama uses when he tries to frame the debate. If McCain is to win he cannot allow that to happen.
"I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstance"
they'll be calling Obama more than the Antichrist in January. They'll call him Mr President.
Why is it surprising?
David Axelrod has obviously gone to school at Karl Rove University - he wants to make this a turnout election, and anything that gets the lazy atheist baby-snuffers off the pipe and out to the polls is good news.
It's just like slipping "wonder-working power" into the 2002 SOU address - only for the other team.
I would like to hear Obama explain how the Department of Defense violates the Sermon on the Mount, citing chapter and verse. I don't think his candidacy would survive that...
No it doesn't. The only awareness I have of Dobson is thru his comments about political figures. I had no idea that he's a minister.
Most definitely agree! :)
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