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One Election Outcome Certain: A Lefty Will Win White House
The NY Sun ^ | June 23, 2008 | Russell Berman

Posted on 06/23/2008 4:13:20 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

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One Election Outcome Certain: A Lefty Will Win White House

But the question is, will the candidate who is more toward the center win, or will the candidate who is so far left he is hanging by his fingernails win?

I'll be holding my nose and voting for the one that is more toward the center.

41 posted on 06/23/2008 6:19:27 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: bert
Is Bob Barr a leftie? I think many FReepers expect him to win.

If they are expecting him to win the Presidency, they are delusional.

42 posted on 06/23/2008 6:21:36 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: angkor; Ronin
[Ronin] Most lefties I know (including my own humble self) can barely count to 20 without taking off their socks.

That describes me (a lefty) pretty well. Although I chose college majors that are a bit heavy on the math (meteorology and comp sci), my actual proficiency tuckered out somewhere over the land of trigonometry. Calculus, yuck.

[angkor] The career guy I knew best from NSA never showed any great interest in numbers or math puzzles, but he was interested in every other kind of puzzle, obscurity, trivia, history, and etymology.

This one describes me even better. I've never been even remotely interested in trying Sudoku, but I love the challenge of a Sunday crossword. And, when I was young, family members knew that if they couldn't think of some other gift for me, it was always safe to give me books on trivia. History, etymology... dang, ya got me.

43 posted on 06/23/2008 6:25:10 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Sinister people seek power.
44 posted on 06/23/2008 6:26:11 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: MBB1984
McCain is not a lefty?

McCain is for McCain, not for any coherent political philosophy. His hodgepodge of "shoot from the hip" opinionating (detached from actual logic as it is) coincidentally overlaps liberal ideology more than it does conservative ideology.

Of course, the fact that the overlap is coincidental doesn't make his views any less of a threat to the republic.

45 posted on 06/23/2008 6:31:45 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“One Election Outcome Certain: A Lefty Will Win White House”

Well, heck. If that’s the case, better that it’s OUR lefty than THEIR lefty.

Theirs is farther - MUCH farther - to the left.

Draw some distinctions here, please.

- John


46 posted on 06/23/2008 6:36:53 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
George H.W. Bush, and Clinton have all favored their left hands,

So is Perot, for that matter, so 92 was certain for the Southpaws.

Oddly enough, even though the lefties dominate, until Clinton, no southpaw ever won re-election.

Of course, until Clinton, no Yalie had won relection either.

47 posted on 06/23/2008 7:09:32 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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To: livius

“If he gets McCain, he’ll get a liberal president. If he gets Obama, he’ll get a Marxist dictator. I think there’s a difference.”

Agree, and there certainly IS a BIG difference!


48 posted on 06/23/2008 7:32:36 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: Apollo 13

I cannot imagine trying to write with my right hand.

It would look worse than something a pre-schooler would do.


49 posted on 06/23/2008 7:41:42 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (This tagline is completely naked - STOP STARING!)
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To: The Wizard; rightwingintelligentsia
more BS crap from the idiot fringe......You folks that need a facist in the white house need to lighten up

No one gets everything they want, it's life....McCain wasn't my choice, but he ain't a lefty and all you have to do is listen to the obomba to know McCain is a far cry,in the right, direction from him.


Isn't a leftie?

Apparently you don't know much about John McCain's record.

Here is the proof, researched out and linked too, since you seem to have too little time to do the necessary research:

1. Gang of Fourteen (Kept some of President Bush’s best judges from being presented for a vote) See here and here
2. McCain-Fiengold (Assault on Free Speech and Pro-Life
3. McCain-Kennedy (Amnesty for criminal Illegal Aliens)
4. McCain-Lieberman (50 cents a gallon tax)
5. Total support for global warming scam, including the Carbon Cap-and-Trade system. See Here
6. Support for embryonic stem cell research (Murder of unborn babies).
7. Wants to moderate or soften the Pro-Life plank of the GOP Platform. See Here and Here and Here.
8. Has flip-flopped on overturning Roe vs. Wade.
9. Wants to close Gitmo and give Terrorists access to our legal system.
10. F grade from Gun-Owners of America.
11. C grade from NRA.
12. 65% score from American Conservative Union in 2006
13. Wants to bail out sub-prime losers (many of which are either illegal aliens or lied on thier applications) with US tax money.
14. Voted against President Bush’s tax cuts (called them tax-cuts for the rich)
15. Flirted with the idea of crossing over to the Dems in 2004.
16. Wants to implement a socialist Health Care proposal that includes providing tax-coffer monies (your tax dollars) to the states to provide Health Care Insurance for those who either refuse to pay for it, or are unable to afford it (mostly illegal aliens).
17. Divorced his wife after he got back from Vietnam. The same woman who remained true to him and raised his kids while he was imprisoned.
18. Refuses to drill in ANWR. See here and here
19. Agrees with Democrats that our Foreign Policy has been arrogant and we need to be more humble.
20. Thinks and states that Pharmaceutical companies are evil
21. Has accepted funding from Soros and Teresa Heinz-Kerry for his institute
22. John McCain's Top 10 Class-Warfare Arguments Against Tax Cuts
23. "I think the Democrat Party is a fine and I have no problems with it, in their views and philosophy"
24. Strongly against Same Sex Marriage Ban Constitutional Amendment
25. Voted for Pro-Abortion Bill and Here.
26. Voted against bill that would impose sanctions against foreign governments and companies that invest more than $20 million in Iran's energy sector until the president certified to Congress that Iran had dismantled its weapons of mass destruction Here and Here
27. Voted against repealing the death tax.
28. McCain-Edwards-Kennedy    (Many Democrat inspired bad rules included in this monstrosity)
29. Wants to close Guantanamo and give Terrorists modified military trials with some of the same rights as our civil court system.
30. Socialist Approach to Business I.: Supports Windfall Profit Tax
31. Socialist Approach to Business II.: Will Regulate CEO Pay
32. Missed 60.8 of all votes. Most of any Senate Member
33. The list of shame: John McCain's votes against the GOP and conservatism in general. Read them and weep Freepers!
50 posted on 06/23/2008 7:48:02 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: TommyDale
Media has been gone rather easy on McCain, must fear at little that the Republicans might come to their senses and nominate somebody else.

McCain's nomination would make a "dark comedy" with Tim Conway as McCain and Joan Rivers as Cindy. It would contain a heart-wrenching scene of McCain asking for a get-together with those who he said torutred him, and Cindy visiting Vietnam. Here something does not ring right.

51 posted on 06/23/2008 7:51:21 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: MBB1984
Of course McCain is a lefty. A stealth senator? And what is this about him meeting secretly with pro illegal alien reps? No press allowed, I heard.
52 posted on 06/23/2008 7:53:42 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Could he be mentally ill?


53 posted on 06/23/2008 7:54:41 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: ovrtaxt; All
That would explain the lack of media reaction to the many, many absurdities and errors made by McCain. There was his and the smiling Cindy's reaction to the NYT story: It was disappointing.

BTW, what happened to the thread of McCain and car battery. I forgot the exact title.

54 posted on 06/23/2008 8:00:48 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: Jane Austen

Got pulled, it was from the AP


55 posted on 06/23/2008 8:02:46 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Yep, I now recall AP’s crazy demands.


56 posted on 06/23/2008 8:04:18 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

A pro-military, anti-abortion liberal or an ANTI-MILITARY-PRO Abortion, Anti-American marxist........the choice is simple!


57 posted on 06/23/2008 8:07:45 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: PISANO
McCain may appear pro military but the reality is that he is not pro America because he refuses to support American sovereignty and enforce the border. A man who does not support American sovereignty can not and will not adequately support America's defense.
58 posted on 06/23/2008 8:40:34 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: austinrepub
Enough with the hyperbole already. The facts: McCain has a lifetime ACU rating of 83. Though that’s not as conservative as we may like, to say that he is a liberal is totally baseless. Let’s elevate the conversations around here by sticking to the facts.

I'm sorry, but I don't regard the ACU rating as worth much more than Prof. James Hansen's climate prognostications. Both use slanted scales.

The ACU ranks all votes as conservative or liberal, and doesn't take any note of close wins or loses, where the representiatives vote might have been missing. A vote to deny a $100,000,000 pork barrel project is nice, but not in the same league as a vote against the first amendment in the campaign finance mess, or the Gang of 14 episode. A vote for cancelling the first amendment should rate you below 50% on any conservative score, no matter what else you did that year.

There's lots of big evidence that McCain is a big government, nanny-state type, and lots of small evidence that he wants to do this on the cheap. On National Security, he is for fighting overseas, but not on protecting our borders.

There's a lot of evidence that he's a modern progressive/liberal.

This page has a description of how the ACU ratings are gamed, with regard to why McCain's record isn't as conservative as the numbers show:

Another piece of information from the list above is that many of the votes were close. In one third of these votes, a swing of only two senators would have changed the outcome. In over two thirds, a swing of ten senators would have changed the outcome. As someone remarked, McCain is like a baseball player who gets all his hits after two outs and no one on base, and all his outs with men in scoring position.

59 posted on 06/23/2008 11:52:53 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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