Border fence across deep canyon (pics of border fence construction)

Signs on San Diego ^ | 6/22/2008 | Campo Minumten

[Ladycalif]

More than two years after a precedent-setting move by the federal government cleared a path around environmental laws and legal challenges, the construction of a stretch of border fence across a deep canyon known as Smuggler's Gulch is set to begin next month.

Proposed additional fencing The project will require cutting earth from surrounding hills and filling in the canyon with more than 2 million cubic yards of dirt, an operation so large that critics fear disastrous environmental consequences.

[Stonewall Jackson]

370 miles complete by the end of this year.

Not a bad start, but this still leaves somewhere around 1,200 miles to go.

I was sitting in the lunchroom at work today when one of our liberal cashiers made a comment about the "highly illegal" border fence and how she couldn't wait until Obama got into the White House so he could tear it down. Before I could respond, Ray, another coworker, tore into her with a full barrage of very well informed responses. I almost would think he is a fellow FReeper, except he doesn't have a computer and hates getting on the internet even when he has access.

[endthematrix]

"she couldn't wait until Obama got into the White House so he could tear it down."P>

With his bare hands no less! I can't wait...when the anti-war folks crap their pants when Obama as CiC takes the USA into Africa. Surprise! (He's a warmonger)

[beaversmom]

Do you remember some of his responses to her? What was her reaction when he made those remarks?

[Guenevere]

bttt

[Puddleglum]

Filling in an canyon with dirt? Well, that does sound dumb. I am no greenie but it sounds stupid. I suppose at the cost they could make a cheap fence and put a sentry on it for about 200 years.

And 15 feet high = “get on my shoulder or pile up some rocks.”

This is an SFB fence (stuff for brains). The immigration will stop of its own accord if the employers follow the law and the government quits giving out free goodies.

[bert]

....that’s just an arroyo....

My westspeak is not great. Distinguish if you will, the difference between a canyon and a gulf.

A canyon is I believe a water course cut down from the surrounding mesa?

Arroyo?

[bert]

.....the difference between a canyon and a gulf......

Should be the difference between a canyon and an arroyo

(senior moment)

[newzjunkey]

Never thought I’d live to see the day this actually got built. Thanks, Duncan.

[ken21]

my american heritage dictionary says:

” a deep gully cut by an intermittent stream; a dry gulch....”

all of the american southwest has arroyos, one of the more famous being the arroyo seco in pasadena. a dry gulch. usually with rattlesnakes.

the name is prominent in tucson. if you drive your car through an arroyo, or even smaller dip in the road, as you notice a thunderstorm over the catalinas, you may not survive the flood of water.

the word probably comes from the spanish, who were white and here before the mexicans.

arroyo comes from the latin word for a gallieried mine.

[Stonewall Jackson]

Sorry, but I got into a discussion on gun control with another coworker and was only half-listening to their conversation.

I remember that he pointed out the increased violent gang activity among illegal immigrants, the fact that they are no licensed to operate vehicles but do so anyway, and the danger of having terrorists sneak across our southern border without being detected to unleash another 9-11 style attack.

[TheBattman]

Dude-— if you know for certain they are illegal, then I would be reporting them on a daily basis to every authority I could get a phone number for. I would not stop until they were either gone, or I was arrested...

[sinclair]

There is a solution to every problem. It just takes the will to find it.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Local law enforcement won’t do anything. Called them again last night and I don’t believe they ever did come out (it’s low priority, nevermind that thanks to a physical condition of labyrinthitis, to me, it’s quite literally assault and battery because it often can make me violently nauseous, and there’s nowhere in the house to escape it, it penetrates through thick walls and even the dirt in the crawl space). The cops CANNOT ask if they are illegal, so once again, less than useless. They have invaded my city en masse and turned everything they have moved into to $hit.

[TheBattman]

File a lawsuit against the city/municipality for failing to do their duty.

http://www.reportillegals.com/

[TheBattman]

Telephone Number For Geographic Region
______________________________

1-800-375-5283 National Service Center.

Los Angeles (Investigations - Report Illegals) - (213) 894-0400

Use to request numbers for areas not listed.

I finally got the San Fran number, checked it out, a live person answered! (415) 705-1251 San Francisco

(201) 645-2240 Newark office, for New Jersey

(205) 591-0920 Birmingham office, for Alabama (

207) 780-3440 Portland office, for Maine

(208) 334-1824 Boise office, for Idaho

(210) 967-7035 San Antonio office, for Southern Texas

(212) 264-5923 New York office, for Southern New York

Glenn, here are the phone #’s of the local Austin INS, so people won’t have to call San Antonio. 512-916-7901 or 916-7904

(214) 905-5807 Dallas office, for Eastern Texas

(215) 656-7195 Philadelphia office, for Eastern Pennsylvania and Delaware

(216) 522-4774 Cleveland office, for Northern Ohio

(303) 371-5028 Denver office, for Colorado

(305) 762-3610 Miami office, for Southern Florida

(307) 772-2040 Cheyenne office, for Wyoming

(312) 353-4465 Chicago office, for Illinois

(313) 568-6042 Detroit office, for Michigan

(314) 539-2538 St. Louis office, for Missouri

(317) 226-6202 Indianapolis office, for Indiana

(319) 364-3280 Cedar Rapids office, for Iowa

(401) 528-5532 Providence office, for Rhode Island (also 528-5545)

(402) 697-9154 Omaha office, for Nebraska (extension 627)

(404) 730-2841 Atlanta office, for Georgia (extension 346)

(405) 231-4595 Oklahoma City office, for Oklahoma

(406) 449-3991 Helena office, for Montana

(407) 855-4418 Orlando office, for Eastern Florida

(410) 962-7449 Baltimore office, for Maryland

(412) 395-4463 Pittsburgh office, for Western Pennsylvania and West Virginia

(414) 297-1571 Milwaukee office, for Wisconsin

(501) 646-4722 Ft. Smith office, for Western Arkansas

(502) 582-6953 Louisville office, for Kentucky

(503) 326-7475 Portland office, for Oregon

(504) 589-4120 New Orleans office, for Louisiana

(513) 684-2412 Cincinnati office, for Southern Ohio

(518) 431-0325 Albany office, for Northern New York

(520) 620-9950 Arizona

(601) 965-5878 Jackson office, for Mississippi

(603) 625-5276 Manchester office, for New Hampshire

(612) 313-9040 Bloomington office, for Minnesota, North Dakota and South Dakota

(617) 565-3100 Boston office, for Massachusetts

(619) 557-6011 San Diego office, for Southern California

(702) 388-6414 Las Vegas office, for Nevada

(703) 578-4901 Washington office, for District of Columbia and Northern Virginia

(704) 672-6938 Charlotte office, for North Carolina

(757) 858-7502 Norfolk office, for Southern Virginia

(801) 265-0136 Salt Lake City office, for Utah

(802) 527-3191 St. Albans office, for Vermont

(803) 727-4422 Charleston office, for South Carolina

(816) 891-8350 Kansas City office, for Kansas

(860) 240-3346 Hartford office, for Connecticut

(901) 544-0256 Memphis office, for Tennessee and Eastern Arkansas (extension 136)

(907) 474-1025 Fairbanks office, for Alaska

Two offices will only take complaints of illegal immigrants in writing:

South Central Florida Area INS 4
60 North Lake Blvd., Suite 107
West Palm Beach, FL 33410 Attn:

Seattle, Washington INS office: (206) 553-7915 and 553-5948
Buffalo, New York office (for western NY) (716) 551-4741 extension 5500

[fieldmarshaldj]

It’s less an issue of failing to do their duty and more of one of having their hands tied and having to follow specific local guidelines. Add to that you have an undermanned department having to deal daily with rapes, robberies, assaults, and murders, reporting “loud noise” is about as far down the totem pole of priorities as jaywalking.

A police officer told one of my parents that there IS no such law for “disturbing the peace.” If a bunch of folks happen to call on noise for one location, it might be moved up in priority, but not by much. I threatened the lady that still owns the house renting out to these people that if she didn’t get the situation under control, we’d sue them to the tune of 5 figures. She claimed she had no control over them and that they were “nice people” (bull$hit, they aren’t nice in the least, they’re liars, giving us a phony phone number, their yard is littered with trash, we see different cars coming in and out at all times of the day, they do strange things in their backyard where they erected a massive ugly fence on a slope that flooded our patio — and I listen closely for roosters, of which I heard one last week, because that will be an indication of cockfighting, which the police DO take seriously).

For awhile after I made the threat, the noise did abate, but it’s still occurring on and off enough times to be a nuisance. Mind you, the source of the noise isn’t from their house, but from a truck they park on the other side of their property and they turn up the stereo full tilt that it rattles windows from a few hundred feet away. I have no intention of confronting them unarmed, since I know full well illegals have little concern for many other laws as well, and drunken ones even less so.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Thanks. I find it astonishing, given the level of illegal invasion in Middle TN that we don’t have our own office.