| Honda is bringing out a hydrogen fuel cell in California.
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Posted on 06/22/2008 12:17:23 PM PDT by Graybeard58
Remember methyl tertiary butyl ether (MTBE), the green gasoline additive that was supposed to save the planet but was an environmental, public-health and economic disaster?
Remember ethanol, the green gasoline additive that replaced MTBE and was supposed to save the planet but has been an environmental, public-health and economic disaster?
Well, now Gang Green is pushing the hybrid vehicle. The jury remains out on whether it will be an economic and environmental disaster — it has some of the earmarks — but hybrid drivers already are saying their green machines are dangerous to their health.
Writing for the Heartland Institute, John Dale Dunn of the American Council on Science and Health notes many people who have bought taxpayer-subsidized hybrids are trading them in — at huge losses in some cases — for cars with internal-combustion engines because of concerns over unavoidable, prolonged exposure to electromagnetic fields created by hybrids' batteries.
Even The New York Times says their fears are "not without merit." The National Institutes of Health and the National Cancer Institute are two of many agencies that say long-term exposure to a strong electromagnetic field is hazardous. Drivers say their hybrids raised their blood pressure, caused drowsiness behind the wheel and worried them sick about increased leukemia risk. Tests have documented "dangerously high" EMFs in hybrids, leading owners "to conclude driving the vehicles is not worth risking blood for oil," Mr. Dunn wrote.
We think this is all a bunch of hooey, of course, because a National Research Council review of more than 500 studies on EMFs found the fields do not cause disease or cancer.
Our view is tempered, however, by the knowledge that the greens were wrong on MTBE, wrong on ethanol, wrong on global warming and wrong about lots of other things. So motorists would be wise to wade into the shallow end of the car pool before taking the hybrid plunge.
Ping to a Republican-American Editorial.
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I don’t know I buy the health impact, though I can understand for certain things, the Hybrid just doesn’t cut it. If money wasn’t an option, I’d get a Hybrid SUV or something. I’m waiting for Fuel Cells though.
Love the moniker.
Ah, yes, fuel cells. The alchemist’s promise.
Honda is bringing out a hydrogen fuel cell in California. However, there have been other fuel cells that use gasoline and don’t need a revamping of our entire infrastructure to accommodate it.
Honda is bringing out a hydrogen fuel cell in California. However, there have been other fuel cells that use gasoline and don’t need a revamping of our entire infrastructure to accommodate it.
What’s the EMF field of the vehicle compared to cell phones? Isn’t there a cell phone hysteria about them causing brain caner?
As for the hybrid cars themselves. It’s been shown that when they run on gas only their MPG is terrible. Then too, how long would it take to amortize the car with the difference with what you’re paying now for gas for your regular car and the hybrid. There was a chart on Google that said it would take ten years to break even.
/r/jane
Actually, Honda is leasing a small number this summer in Southern California. The real problem with Fuel Cells is re-supply fueling. The infrastructure isn’t there and would probably take a decade to build (worst case).
Doesn’t using gasoline for a Fuel Cell defeat the whole purpose of a Fuel cell vehicle?
This idea is absolutely stupid - if this were true, then every utility worker at a power plant would be (a) sterile, (b) deformed, (c) a monster, .. or worse!
A conservative?
Yeah, I do. Only I don't remember it being an environmental, public-health, or economic disaster. This guy must be running his diesel in a garage with the door closed.
Not true. Here’s a few examples of what’s going on in that area. These fuel cells don’t use hydrogen. That’s probably what you think of when you think fuel cell but they can use a wide range of fuels including gassified coal.
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1642979/
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage8830.html
Fuel cells can use their fuel quite a bit more efficiently. That’s where the promise lies with them.
I admit I never bothered to educate myself about the process in detail, and now I'm curious.
Where is the savings???
| Honda is bringing out a hydrogen fuel cell in California.
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It is time to get into the aluminum wear business. I could make a killing selling just hats.
What's wrong with you? You're not supposed to think about it. You're supposed to feel good about yourself because you're greener than others.
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How much hydrogen does one of these 'Hondenbergs' have to carry around as fuel?