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Hybrid hysteria
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | June 22, 2008 | Editorial

Posted on 06/22/2008 12:17:23 PM PDT by Graybeard58

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1 posted on 06/22/2008 12:17:23 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: ballplayer; warsaw44; Grizzled Bear; Tunehead54; G.Love; nothingnew; dcwusmc; Responsibility2nd; ...

Ping to a Republican-American Editorial.

If you want on or off this list, let me know.


2 posted on 06/22/2008 12:19:28 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Only 7 more shopping days until Graybeard58's b/day.)
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To: Graybeard58

I don’t know I buy the health impact, though I can understand for certain things, the Hybrid just doesn’t cut it. If money wasn’t an option, I’d get a Hybrid SUV or something. I’m waiting for Fuel Cells though.


3 posted on 06/22/2008 12:21:14 PM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: Graybeard58
Gang Green

Love the moniker.

4 posted on 06/22/2008 12:21:43 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the media vs. the people.)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat

Ah, yes, fuel cells. The alchemist’s promise.


5 posted on 06/22/2008 12:22:35 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the media vs. the people.)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat

Honda is bringing out a hydrogen fuel cell in California. However, there have been other fuel cells that use gasoline and don’t need a revamping of our entire infrastructure to accommodate it.


6 posted on 06/22/2008 12:25:23 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat

Honda is bringing out a hydrogen fuel cell in California. However, there have been other fuel cells that use gasoline and don’t need a revamping of our entire infrastructure to accommodate it.


7 posted on 06/22/2008 12:25:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Graybeard58

What’s the EMF field of the vehicle compared to cell phones? Isn’t there a cell phone hysteria about them causing brain caner?

As for the hybrid cars themselves. It’s been shown that when they run on gas only their MPG is terrible. Then too, how long would it take to amortize the car with the difference with what you’re paying now for gas for your regular car and the hybrid. There was a chart on Google that said it would take ten years to break even.

/r/jane


8 posted on 06/22/2008 12:25:40 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: the invisib1e hand

Actually, Honda is leasing a small number this summer in Southern California. The real problem with Fuel Cells is re-supply fueling. The infrastructure isn’t there and would probably take a decade to build (worst case).


9 posted on 06/22/2008 12:25:59 PM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Doesn’t using gasoline for a Fuel Cell defeat the whole purpose of a Fuel cell vehicle?


10 posted on 06/22/2008 12:26:44 PM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: Graybeard58
... concerns over unavoidable, prolonged exposure to electromagnetic fields ....

This idea is absolutely stupid - if this were true, then every utility worker at a power plant would be (a) sterile, (b) deformed, (c) a monster, .. or worse!

11 posted on 06/22/2008 12:28:14 PM PDT by Ken522
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.. or worse!?

A conservative?

12 posted on 06/22/2008 12:33:15 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: Graybeard58
Remember ethanol, the green gasoline additive that replaced MTBE and was supposed to save the planet but has been an environmental, public-health and economic disaster?

Yeah, I do. Only I don't remember it being an environmental, public-health, or economic disaster. This guy must be running his diesel in a garage with the door closed.

13 posted on 06/22/2008 12:33:23 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Not true. Here’s a few examples of what’s going on in that area. These fuel cells don’t use hydrogen. That’s probably what you think of when you think fuel cell but they can use a wide range of fuels including gassified coal.

http://www.epicos.com/epicos/portal/media-type/html/user/anon/page/default.psml/js_panename/News+Information+Article+View;jsessionid=45978ACEB2054EA17A25EE32E11A7DA9.tomcat6?articleid=105404&showfull=false

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1642979/

http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage8830.html


14 posted on 06/22/2008 12:35:44 PM PDT by saganite
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat

Fuel cells can use their fuel quite a bit more efficiently. That’s where the promise lies with them.


15 posted on 06/22/2008 12:36:58 PM PDT by saganite
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To: saganite
I got nothing against hydrogen. I just thought it was funny how, when I looked into them a few years ago, I needed to have LP tanks to keep 'em working.

I admit I never bothered to educate myself about the process in detail, and now I'm curious.

16 posted on 06/22/2008 12:38:15 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the media vs. the people.)
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To: SkyDancer
Honda has a cost savings calculator on their web site for the Civic Hybrid. Compare it against the Civic LX automatic, which gets 36 MPG, and the fuel savings is 1250 in 5 years. That doesn't figure in the cost difference, Hybrid at $22600, Civic LX at $17760 for a $4840 difference. Plus the hybrid battery will require replacement at ~ 80 thousand miles and costs approx $3000.

Where is the savings???

17 posted on 06/22/2008 12:39:56 PM PDT by Don Carlos (No8Do)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Honda is bringing out a hydrogen fuel cell in California.

How much hydrogen does one of these 'Hondenbergs' have to carry around as fuel?


18 posted on 06/22/2008 12:41:18 PM PDT by Nick Danger (Oh! The humanity!)
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To: Graybeard58
We are living in an electromagnetic environment up to the hilt. If electromagnetic radiation is that dangerous, than power plant workers, where huge amounts of electromagnetic radiation is present, should be dying like fies. This is an attempt by the anti personal transportation Marxists to make sure the automobile is taken out of the reach of the individual.

It is time to get into the aluminum wear business. I could make a killing selling just hats.

19 posted on 06/22/2008 12:43:03 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Don Carlos
"Where is the savings???"

What's wrong with you? You're not supposed to think about it. You're supposed to feel good about yourself because you're greener than others.

20 posted on 06/22/2008 12:47:58 PM PDT by penowa
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