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A McCain flip-flop on immigration?
Baltimore Sun ^ | June 20th | Rick Pearson

Posted on 06/21/2008 9:19:40 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

In the meeting, attendees said McCain promised that, if elected, Congress would pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill.

(Excerpt) Read more at weblogs.baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; divideandconquer; hispandering; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; laraza; mccain; mexicans; mexico; rino
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I will NOT be voting for McCain. See my Tagline.


41 posted on 06/21/2008 10:12:06 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: TheZMan
Poll: Voters Unaware of Candidates’ Immigration Positions; McCain Supporters Farthest Off the Mark
42 posted on 06/21/2008 10:12:40 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
I like to think of it the same way I think about my two senators, Chambliss and Isaakson....they started out agreeing to this amnesty sham and were very quickly reminded from whence their largesse comes.

However, they (and McCain) " ONLY CHANGED THEIR TUNES, NOT THEIR HEARTS".

43 posted on 06/21/2008 10:13:05 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Crimson Elephant
"I am beginning to wonder if the GOP thinks it, long term can 'win' the latino vote over social issues/religion."

If that were the case, why would the GOP be so anxious to toss the "religious right" voters they already have under the bus?

Latinos don't vote on social issues/religion or they wouldn't vote mostly for Democrats. Like most new immigrants, they vote for the socialist who will dole out more goodies to them than the other guy.

44 posted on 06/21/2008 10:18:51 AM PDT by penowa
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To: rabscuttle385
I thought McCain's first priority was for border security!

Border security and amnesty are not quite the same issue. McCain hasn't flip-flopped. He never said he would stop pushing for amnesty. He stated that border security was important and it is. Where is the contradiction as these two issues apply to McCain?

He didn't promise to round up one single illegal alien and deport him/her, did he?


McCain, best friend an illegal alien ever had.

45 posted on 06/21/2008 10:21:16 AM PDT by Ron H. (Repeat after me now: McCain is NOT a conservative. Again now: McCain is NOT a conservative.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

McCain sponsored the so-called Comprehensive Immigration Act with his buddy, Ted Kennedy, and he has never wavered from his wish to grant amnesty to illegals. At least he has been consistently wrong...


46 posted on 06/21/2008 10:25:56 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: darkwing104; JoanneSD; TheZMan; rabscuttle385; Halfmanhalfamazing; Farmer Dean; FlingWingFlyer; ...
I have always believed that our border must be secure and that the federal government has utterly failed in its responsibility to ensure that it is secure. If we have learned anything from the recent immigration debate, it is that Americans have little trust that their government will honor a pledge to do the things necessary to make the border secure. As president, I will secure the border. I will restore the trust Americans should have in the basic competency of their government. A secure border is an essential element of our national security. Tight border security includes not just the entry and exit of people, but also the effective screening of cargo at our ports and other points of entry. But a secure border will contribute to addressing our immigration problem most effectively if we also: ... click here
47 posted on 06/21/2008 10:26:00 AM PDT by meandog ((please pray for future President McCain, day minus 220 and counting))
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To: AuntB
Right behind ya. Not much other choice. And at least I could sleep that night.

I will be doing the same. Duncan Hunter, the right choice.

48 posted on 06/21/2008 10:26:28 AM PDT by afnamvet
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To: Ron H.

lol love the picture hahaha


49 posted on 06/21/2008 10:27:18 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; All

While I am not a McCain fan .. I did hear him say that he realizes the public wants the borders closed first.

I think our goal should be to make sure that happens .. and force Congress to put through the rest of the garbage in separate legislation .. which will have a harder time passing. We simply cannot allow the SENATE to have a 60-vote margin of democrats.

And .. as long as Bush is president .. there won’t be anything more done because the Bush-haters in Congress will do whatever it takes to keep Bush from having any success in that area.


50 posted on 06/21/2008 10:27:35 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: Perdogg
>but let’s get our facts straight before passing judgment.

I happen to agree with you on that.
Now let us get our facts straight on his July meeting with La Raza.

Unfortunately, McCain's position on Comprehensive Immigration Reform is pretty well summed up by the bill's name; McCain/Kennedy, and most of what I see now is his attempt to present a fish as if it is a bear.

It's a tough job, and it is clear that John believes in his stand on immigration and has trouble in his heart and mind “spinning” it.

Remember that scene in A Few Good Men where Cruise says “I know he wants to say it - he wants to stand up and scream it?”

I strongly feel that this is McCain's problem. He wants to stand up and say, “Hell yes, I'm for amnesty! That's my name on the damn bill you damn fools!” - but that would lose him the election.

51 posted on 06/21/2008 10:29:12 AM PDT by bill1952 (Obama-the only one who can make me vote McCain McCain-the only one who can make me stay at home)
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To: Gaffer

McCain is the “Amnesty King.” He does more than just vote for amnesty. He authors and sponsors the legislation. He did in 2006 [S 2611] and got it passed in the Senate and then in 2007—McCain-Kennedy. This guy is a true believer. He is incapable of changing his position on this issue.


52 posted on 06/21/2008 10:30:30 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Good points. Reality stinks for some here.....


53 posted on 06/21/2008 10:32:02 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: Crimson Elephant
>Of course, we already know the dems think that.

Not to mention the end of America itself


54 posted on 06/21/2008 10:34:30 AM PDT by bill1952 (Obama-the only one who can make me vote McCain McCain-the only one who can make me stay at home)
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To: Brilliant
We are not only talking about legalizing the status [read amnesty] of 12 million illegals but also another 66 million LEGAL IMMIGRANTS whom they will sponsor thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification. And if the number is higher than 12 million, which it surely is, we are talking about 100 million new legal residents of this country over a 20 year period.

Amnesty will destroy this country with a stroke of a pen. Amnesty is forever.

55 posted on 06/21/2008 10:34:55 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Ron H.

McCain said he would round up the 2 million criminal illegals and deport them immediately. Yet, he says we can’t deport 12 million. There is a logical inconsistency in his statements.


56 posted on 06/21/2008 10:36:42 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

bttt


57 posted on 06/21/2008 10:39:22 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: meandog
This is a clear case of actions speaking louder than words...

For the security of this country I have to vote for McCain.


58 posted on 06/21/2008 10:39:47 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: meandog

Words... McCain is pretty good at pandering with words when he means to act in a completely different manner. I believe this is called lying when we peons do it.


59 posted on 06/21/2008 10:41:19 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: E. Cartman; All

“Tell a lie here. Tell a lie there. Say one thing one day. Say something different the next. It really doesn’t matter to him what it might cost others so long as it’s good for “The John”.

He does because he can. With all the party loyals threatening a no vote for McCain is a vote for (Hillary)/Obama...they’re counting on shaming/fearmongering us into voting for McCain.

Too bad we can’t grassroots a write in vote across the nation for Hunter. He’s the only candidate who was absolutely clear about an effectively secured border and no form of any amnesty.


60 posted on 06/21/2008 10:41:23 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Don't blame me.....I support DUNCAN HUNTER.)
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