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Sect chief's daughter seeks order against FLDS official
Houston Chronicle and San Antonio Express-News ^ | June 20, 2008 | Terri Langford and Lisa Sandberg

Posted on 06/20/2008 3:36:08 PM PDT by Flo Nightengale

A lawyer for the 16-year-old daughter of polygamist group leader Warren Jeffs is requesting a restraining order to prevent a spokesman for the group from intimidating and harassing the girl.

The request for a restraining order against Willie Jessop was filed in San Angelo today by Natalie Malonis.

The teenager was one of the hundreds of children taken from the Yearning For Zion Ranch by Texas Child Protective Services in April because investigators believed they were exposed to abuse by members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Her name is not being disclosed because Malonis has said that she is a victim of sexual abuse.

Malonis, of Dallas, maintains in her request that Jessop has ''engaged in conduct designed to intimidate and harrass'' Malonis and her client.

Several sources close to the case have indicated that the girl is expected to be asked to testify before a Schleicher County grand jury, which next week will begin hearing the state of Texas' criminal case against FLDS members.

Malonis' request comes one day after investigators from the Texas Attorney General's Office attempted to serve the girl with a subpoena, but were unable to locate her.

''I believe that (the girl) was avoiding service because of coercion and improper influence from Willie Jessop,'' the request states.

Jessop called the petition "outrageous."

"She's trying to blame me for her client not liking her," he said today. "It shows her pathetic mindset. The only thing I ever did was try to get them together."

Jessop disputed the notion that he has attempted to intimidate Malonis or her client

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flds; jeffs; jessop; polygamy
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To: LeGrande

The only confusion seems to be in your head.

Everyone else gets it.


241 posted on 06/21/2008 6:27:45 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: UCANSEE2
“So you are claiming that the Attorney is the guardian too?”

No. Never did. You are making that up, again.

I was asking a question. Did you see the '?' ? That makes it a question not a statement. Do you know the difference between a question and a statement or do I need to explain it to you? That was a question.

Well, apparently you don’t know the law very well, because you insist that the girl’s attorney for the Grand Jury hearings is a defense attorney.

LOL if the Young Lady's Attorney isn't her Defense Attorney then what is she? Anyone that testifies before a Grand Jury had better have a very good Defense Attorney.

Maybe you should take some of your own advice.

I do. I have made it a personal policy never to testify before a Grand Jury, especially with a hostile prosecutor. I don't know why but I have never like a**l exams.

242 posted on 06/21/2008 6:43:17 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande; Alice in Wonderland

““So you are claiming that the Attorney is the guardian too?””

No. Never did. You keep bringing it up, even after I answered it already. You keep trying to imply I said it, and I didn’t.


“LOL if the Young Lady’s Attorney isn’t her Defense Attorney then what is she?”

Apparently an ‘attorney ad litem’. Which you would know if you read the article and the other posts.

I think Alice in Wonderland explained it all to you.
Did you read her posts to you?


243 posted on 06/21/2008 7:05:00 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
The job of an attorney for a minor is to pursue the minor’s best interests.

And just who determines those best interests? The Attorney? LOL

Abused children (and adults) will often protect their abusers.

And oddly enough "children (and adults) will often protect their" loved ones. Is that how you establish guilt nowadays?

244 posted on 06/21/2008 7:10:19 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande

“I was asking a question. Did you see the ‘?’ ? That makes it a question not a statement. Do you know the difference between a question and a statement or do I need to explain it to you? That was a question.”

Do you know that “NO. NEVER DID.” is an answer?

Do I need to explain it to you?

Do you know what NO means?
Do you know what NEVER DID means?

: )


245 posted on 06/21/2008 7:15:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: LeGrande; GovernmentShrinker

But children and adults who are not abused do not have to lie to protect their loved ones.


246 posted on 06/21/2008 7:18:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: UCANSEE2
LOL if the Young Lady’s Attorney isn’t her Defense Attorney then what is she?

Apparently an ‘attorney ad litem’. Which you would know if you read the article and the other posts.

No, you are referring to the Guardian ad litem. "The child’s attorney is Natalie Malonis, and her guardian ad litem is Connie Gauwain." Those are two very distinct roles.

I think Alice in Wonderland explained it all to you. Did you read her posts to you?

LOL Obviously you didn't. I just quoted her.

247 posted on 06/21/2008 7:31:07 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande
I have made it a personal policy never to testify before a Grand Jury

You had a choice?

248 posted on 06/21/2008 7:38:09 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: LeGrande

“No, you are referring to the Guardian ad litem.”

No I am not. I am referring to an ‘attorney ad litem’

Would you like to see it in print? From a source?


“In an exclusive interview with Natalie Malonis, the woman appointed Attorney ad litem for three of the FLDS children and serving as co-counsel for one other child, we get answers to a few of those questions.”

http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/05/exclusive-interview-with-natalie.html


“Obviously you didn’t. I just quoted her.”

You qouted one of her comments in a post. She made more than one post, more than one post to you.

Now that you see it in print, your insistence you are RIGHT, and that everyone else is WRONG, and that you know the answer to questions before you ask them, turns out to be a sham.

Wake up and smell the roses, as they say.


249 posted on 06/21/2008 7:45:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: UCANSEE2; GovernmentShrinker
But children and adults who are not abused do not have to lie to protect their loved ones.

Everyone lies to protect their loved ones. Wives abuse husbands, husbands abuse wives, and cops hate domestic dispute cases. And that's the truth : )

250 posted on 06/21/2008 7:46:35 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: CindyDawg

Yes you have a choice.


251 posted on 06/21/2008 7:47:02 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: UCANSEE2; LeGrande

Ok, so we have a liberal lawyer claiming the child was abused,

Not that she might have some motive, to claim a child of a conservative sect was abused - was the the child homeschooled, hmmm? That is prima facia evidence of abuse, nicht wahr?

The kid says the lawyer is putting words in her mouth.

The Lawyer says the kid is intimidated, by the church elders et al.

I have no idea where the truth lies.

But this one lawyer, strikes me as off...

If anybody hasd better info, please chime in.


252 posted on 06/21/2008 7:47:07 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: LeGrande

“Everyone lies to protect their loved ones. “

I can’t think of a single case where my family had to lie to protect me, or vice versa.


“Wives abuse husbands, husbands abuse wives, and cops hate domestic dispute cases.”

And you think that citing cases of abuse, proves that everyone lies?

How utterly silly.


253 posted on 06/21/2008 7:51:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: SouthTexas

Huh. I didn’t know that.


254 posted on 06/21/2008 7:54:52 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

You have the right to answer all, some, or none of the questions. Worse thing they can do is send you to jail for contempt of court.

It’s part of that 5th amendment thingy. :)


255 posted on 06/21/2008 7:57:29 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: SouthTexas

Well yeah...but I meant...I can refuse WITHOUT GOING TO JAIL?


256 posted on 06/21/2008 8:04:12 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: LeGrande

Ad litem is a term used in law to refer to a party appointed by a court to act in a lawsuit on behalf of another party—for instance, a child or an incapacitated adult—who is deemed incapable of representing him or herself.

Each YFZ child has been appointed:

1. an attorney (attorney ad litem)

2. a court-appointed special advocate (guardian ad litem)

3. a CPS worker


257 posted on 06/21/2008 8:04:50 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: CindyDawg

Easiest way is avoid being served and very few actually go to jail for refusing to testify anyway. We don’t have big enough jails.


258 posted on 06/21/2008 8:07:54 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: LeGrande
Is it in a child's best interest to testify before a Grand Jury with the proviso that any mistake could put the child away for years?

HUH?

259 posted on 06/21/2008 8:08:50 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: UCANSEE2
You qouted one of her comments in a post. She made more than one post, more than one post to you.

You essentially asked me to quote Alice in Wonderland and I did. "The child’s attorney is Natalie Malonis, and her guardian ad litem is Connie Gauwain." If you don't like it don't ask for it.

Now that you see it in print, your insistence you are RIGHT, and that everyone else is WRONG, and that you know the answer to questions before you ask them, turns out to be a sham.

Actually I just like hoisting bigots by their own petards :)

260 posted on 06/21/2008 8:09:37 PM PDT by LeGrande
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