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CA: Why driver in fatal crash was unlicensed (because she is an illegal immigrant)
Mercury News ^ | 6/20/08 | Sandra Gonzales and Edwin Garcia

Posted on 06/20/2008 10:16:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Not only was the driver of a Ford Bronco that fatally struck a 12-year-old girl unlicensed, but San Jose police say she is also an illegal immigrant, renewing the debate over whether undocumented people should be allowed to apply for driver's licenses.

The revelation that Adriana Fierro De Marin, 31, is in the country illegally struck yet another chord with the family of Breanna Slaughter-Eck, still reeling from the loss of the Hoover Middle School sixth-grader.

"I'm worried that she just might flee now and walk away from all this," said Joe Castro, the man who raised Breanna for the last four years. For her part, Breanna's mother simply wants justice.

Breanna was biking home from Hoover on June 12, her last day of school, when a Ford Bronco making a left turn slammed into her. The crash is still under investigation and no charges have been filed.

But Breanna's death and the disclosure by authorities that Fierro De Marin is an undocumented immigrant and unlicensed driver highlights one of the more controversial topics lingering in the state Capitol.

There have been nine attempts since 1999 to allow undocumented immigrants to apply for driver's licenses. Each of the efforts has failed, opposed by Republicans who say it's inappropriate to provide state services and benefits to people who are in the country illegally.

State Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, says safety is more important.

"We have, every day, 2 1/2 million people taking the roads who, if given the opportunity, would apply for driver's licenses," said Cedillo, whose latest proposal passed the Senate and is back before the Assembly this summer. "We're endangering the lives of pedestrians and motorists in California every single day."

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; fatalcrash; illegal; immigrant; immigrantlist; unlicensed
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1 posted on 06/20/2008 10:17:04 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Once again, logic is turned on it’s ear in a response to a tragic result of illegal immigration.


2 posted on 06/20/2008 10:19:26 AM PDT by stravinskyrules (Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa-Lobos?)
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To: NormsRevenge

So there’s something in the CA Driver’s License application process that would have explained to Ms. De Marin that when operating a motor vehicle, you’re not supposed to drive over people on bicycles, a fact that she was otherwise apparently ignorant of?


3 posted on 06/20/2008 10:20:20 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Cedillo’s argument is that having a state issued license is going to make unlicensed drivers better by virtue of having the license?

What an idiot. No matter how much bureaucracy one could make intervene, that little girl would still be dead.


4 posted on 06/20/2008 10:22:05 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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The crash is still under investigation and no charges have been filed.

This woman is in the country illegally, killed someone, the accident happened more than a week ago and no charges have been filed?

5 posted on 06/20/2008 10:22:22 AM PDT by library user
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The mercury, and apparently, a lot if not all, of the local media is aghast at the “revelation”, at least the reporters, that this is an illegal.. ha ha ha.. half this valley is probably illegal.

12 year old not wearing helmet, last day of school, usually walked to school.

31 yo illegal going to pick her kid up T’bones the girl at an intersection. no charges yet, worse she could have got was a misdemeanor, now , who knows.. crazy, just crazy what legal citizens and their families have to endure in the US and how disconnected the DC crowd is from the price paid at the local level every day for their inaction and indifference.


6 posted on 06/20/2008 10:24:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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Cedillo’s argument is that having a state issued license is going to make unlicensed drivers better by virtue of having the license?

Well, having a valid driver's license means you had to pass some kind of driving test, right? Therefore, someone WITH a license is hypothetically more skilled behind the wheel than someone who hasn't taken any driving tests (at least in the US), like this lady.

7 posted on 06/20/2008 10:24:35 AM PDT by library user
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For background, check out the links under

Related Stories
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_9645252

* Jun 20:
* Community, police help surviving family of bike-riding schoolgirl
* Jun 14:
* How to help family of girl who died in crash
* Anguish, questions after fatal crash
* Jun 13:
* Police: Driver who fatally struck San Jose girl is unlicensed
* 12-year-old bike rider killed in San Jose crash
* Jun 12:
* Map of crash scene
* San Jose sixth-grader fatally struck by SUV on her way home from school


8 posted on 06/20/2008 10:26:31 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"We have, every day, 2 1/2 million people taking the roads who, if given the opportunity, would apply for driver's licenses," said Cedillo.

He's saying that the number of illegals driving in this country each day is 2.5 million?

9 posted on 06/20/2008 10:27:00 AM PDT by library user
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To: NormsRevenge

Who’s more at fault here: the SUV or the illegal driver? /s


10 posted on 06/20/2008 10:27:45 AM PDT by library user
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To: NormsRevenge

Illegal aliens getting licenses under fake identities (metricula consular) and then escaping justice.

This will make us safer, how?


11 posted on 06/20/2008 10:28:03 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: library user

scary, huh?


12 posted on 06/20/2008 10:29:53 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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"This woman is in the country illegally, killed someone, the accident happened more than a week ago and no charges have been filed?"

Somehow, I can't envision a scenario where I hit so much as a mailbox without a license and don't get charged. But then again, I'm a white, heterosexual male so I needn't even get out of bed in the morning to be guilty of something.

13 posted on 06/20/2008 10:30:05 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: library user
Well, having a valid driver's license means you had to pass some kind of driving test, right? Therefore, someone WITH a license is hypothetically more skilled behind the wheel than someone who hasn't taken any driving tests (at least in the US), like this lady.

So, if this illegal immigrant had been properly licensed, the girl she killed would only be hypothetically dead.

Nice.
14 posted on 06/20/2008 10:30:55 AM PDT by mkjessup (Obama-flakes! = Little suntanned Jimmy Carters with twice the empty rhetoric , from DNC cereals!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

What makes “one bill gil” think that this woman would apply for a CA D.L.? She apparently doesn’t have a Mexican driver’s license.


15 posted on 06/20/2008 10:30:57 AM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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He's saying that the number of illegals driving in this country each day is 2.5 million?

Probably 2.5 million just in California.

16 posted on 06/20/2008 10:34:59 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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I wouldn’t doubt that, but there’s that many driving? That’s what caught my attention.


17 posted on 06/20/2008 10:36:06 AM PDT by library user
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To: mkjessup

If she had a license, she probably would have been a better driver - having had an instructor to teach her about reading signs, the importance of yieling to pedestrians and what not - and the accident wouldn’t have happened. That was my point.


18 posted on 06/20/2008 10:39:47 AM PDT by library user
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To: NormsRevenge
Dear Senator numbnuts:

Apparently, the lack of a license did not stop this person from operating a motor vehicle, with fatal results.

Mere posession of a card that says you know how to drive is no guarantee that, if you even bother to get the card, you will drive in any manner approaching a standard which could be generally accepted as "safe and responsible".

It hasn't worked for the millions of drivers who routinely break traffic laws, get in accidents and either kill or maim others or are killed and maimed themselves, even though many of them are Citizens of the United States.

The person in question had already demonstrated their disdain for authority and law in this country, simply by being here illegally.

What hope does this hold out to you that they might suddenly, despite their felonious behaviour to date, have a change of heart on this one topic and forego the misdemeanor charge of driving without a license?

Their contempt for the law reaches deeper than just crossing some imaginary line.

Quit enabling their behaviour and send them home, wherever it is.

19 posted on 06/20/2008 10:43:52 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: library user
Well, having a valid driver's license means you had to pass some kind of driving test, right? Therefore, someone WITH a license is hypothetically more skilled behind the wheel than someone who hasn't taken any driving tests (at least in the US), like this lady.

And surely this woman wouldn't have been driving if she'd failed the driving test.

Owl_Eagle

If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.

20 posted on 06/20/2008 10:46:37 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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