teachers in Texas---they are opposed because they have no regard for their charges...only for their own arrogant interests. The pillory and a beating is in order for some of the nitwits. Our founding fathers had the right idea.
Posted on 06/19/2008 7:25:19 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
Listen up featherheads: when teachers commit cruel actions against the kids they supervise, a beating in public and an abrupt dismissal is a far more effective deterrent than the incredibly moronic procedures that go on now by which the child-abusing perps get paid in full while putting districts through hell for years.
Where is the justice for the children and the families that have suffered at the clutches of the pubic school teachers?
The answer is there is none. The unions and Deweyites have seen to that.
Oh, my.
As Amelia pointed out - since some Catholic priests are nasty, disgusting pedophiles, why don't you go start beating them up one at a time - eventually you'll catch one
As far as you next post having to do with background checks? Virginia already instituted that, in addition all volunteers and field trip chaperones must also pass a fingerprint and background check. I agree with background checks in principle because of the violent nature of our society
At least some of the "incredibly moronic procedures" you refer to are enshrined in our Constitution, but I guess you have problems with that?
Has it ever occurred to you that not all of the teachers who are accused are actually guilty? For instance, here's a teacher who was charged with assaulting a student, but almost a year later, a jury(what a concept!) found him "not guilty".
Where is the justice for the children and the families that have suffered at the clutches of the pubic [sic] school teachers?
Okay, so if you'd taken the teacher mentioned above out and publicly beat him, dismissed him, etc., how would you make it up to him when you found out that he was not guilty?
There's a reason we have courts in this country, and one reason is because of illogical hotheads and would-be vigilantes like yourself. I guess you thought lynchings were great, too?
When I was a student teacher in kindergarten, the teacher disappeared and just left me alone with her class for more than an hour. A 5 y/o went off and attacked me with one of those old fashioned wooden brooms, leaving several big bruises, and nearly got several other kids before I wrestled the broom away from him. I pushed him out in the hallway and locked the door so he couldn’t get back in—fortunately another teacher going by knew the kid’s background (’special ed’) and got help right away...so those 5/6 y/o’s CAN do some real damage. As far as I know, the teacher was never disciplined for leaving me and the class alone unsupervised.
IMO situations like this DO count as ‘assaults’...each case should be looked at individually though, because yes, sometimes it’s just a matter of teacher/student butting heads (not literally) and teacher can make a big deal out of nothing.
I'm guessing that these teachers do think the Founding Fathers had the right idea, and they think that they have a right to privacy, and a right not to have their fingerprints in some criminal database if they haven't been accused or suspected of a crime.
They might even think, with some justification, that a requirement that they be fingerprinted or lose their jobs is a violation of their 4th Amendment rights -- which would be a conservative position, don't you think?
Note: I had to be fingerprinted to become a teacher, and also for my concealed carry permit, but I can see the teachers' point.
Yes, and if you put a bruise on them or touch them in the "wrong" way trying to restrain them, you can be in big trouble...
You have a conceal carry permit? AWESOME!
:-)
Not suggesting that a pre-adolescent getting physical is just kids being kids, or in any way acceptable for a teacher to have to deal with. Kick em out for a month on the first offense and the rest of the year on the second, if it were up to me. (Don't ask about the third.)
But if you call a 50 pound grade schooler leaving bruises an assault that dilutes the term so as to have no real meaning when applied to a 200 pound high schooler who's a genuine threat to life and limb.
It took everything I had to wrestle that broom away from that
kid, and if he HAD hit another child in the head with the swings he was taking, that child could easily have ended up with brain damage, or God forbid, died! :-( To me, yes, that was an assault, although it was ‘blown off’ because he was ‘mainstreamed’ and ‘it doesn’t count as an attack’ because ‘he couldn’t help himself’....I know there are times when kids kick or bite or pull hair, all a normal part of growing up, and I don’t consider those types of things “assaults”, but just because a kid is young, believe me, they can still do a lot of damage to the teacher and the other students, unfortunately.
At some point, a "mainstreamed" child is going to do some real harm to a "regular" child and there's going to be a lawsuit to reduce mainstreaming....
I'm not saying all, or even most, special education students pose a danger, but some do, and having some in the room reduces the education taking place for all the other students there, and some students simply need a smaller setting instead of a regular classroom.
Robert Heilien:
An armed society is a polite society.
Yes, I too have a Concealed Weapon License. And I take something with me almost everywhere I go but work.
Schools unfortunately frown on us being armed.
But, I guess I am a ‘featherhead’ since I teach in a public school.
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