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Abu Ghraib? Doesn't Ring a Bell - [Former Top Lawyer in Pentagon]
Washington Post ^ | June 18th, 2008 | Dan Milbank

Posted on 06/18/2008 5:19:26 PM PDT by The_Republican

If ever there was a case that cried out for enhanced interrogation techniques, it was yesterday's Senate appearance by the Pentagon's former top lawyer.

William "Jim" Haynes II, the man who blessed the use of dogs, hoods and nudity to pry information out of recalcitrant detainees, proved to be a model of evasion himself as he resisted all attempts at inquiry by the Armed Services Committee.

Did he ask a subordinate to get information about harsh questioning techniques?

"My memory is not perfect."

Did he see a memo about the effects of these techniques?

"I don't specifically remember when I saw this."

Did he remember doing something with the information he got?

"I don't remember doing something with this information."

When did he discuss these methods with other Bush administration officials?

"I don't know precisely when, and I cannot discuss it further without getting into classified information."

Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.) had had enough. "You say you don't remember it any more clearly than what you've said," he pointed out. "Therefore, going into classified session isn't going to give us any more information than what you've said, which is you had conversations but your memory is bad."

"Correct," Haynes agreed.

"And that's all you remember?"

"Correct," Haynes repeated.

Luckily for the witness, they don't allow naked pyramids and simulated electrocutions in the Dirksen Senate Office Building.

It was the most public case of memory loss since Alberto Gonzales, appearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee, forgot everything he ever knew about anything. And, like Gonzales, Haynes (who, denied a federal judgeship by the Senate, left the Pentagon in February for a job with Chevron) had good reason to plead temporary senility.

A committee investigation found that, contrary to his earlier testimony, Haynes had showed strong interest in potentially abusive questioning methods...................................................................................................................................................................................................................

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abugharaib; congress; kangaroocourt; propagandawingofdnc; ussenate
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1 posted on 06/18/2008 5:19:26 PM PDT by The_Republican
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To: The_Republican

Oh yeah, and of course the Whitewater hearings, the Foster hearings, the Chinese cash for influence hearings and a myriad of others didn’t have any lapses of memory pop up.

The Post has a short memory.


2 posted on 06/18/2008 5:25:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: The_Republican

SOooo... Congress thinks that being nice to the muzzie madmen will get us the info we want?
Turn the muzzie madmen loose in Congress, we’ll see them sing a different tune then.


3 posted on 06/18/2008 5:25:35 PM PDT by Darksheare (Why do they call it Salad Dressing when clothes aren't in any way involved?)
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To: The_Republican

How about those Waco hearings? Any lapses of memory there?


4 posted on 06/18/2008 5:25:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: The_Republican

Dogs, hoods, and nudity. I think I dated him...


5 posted on 06/18/2008 5:25:57 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Obama supporters. Letting the little void do the thinking for the big void.)
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To: The_Republican

gee you would think he coulda invoked his 5th amendment but that might have pissed the Dims off.

Just a witch hunt and i don’t blame him. Far as I care torture the enemy if it saves Americans.


6 posted on 06/18/2008 5:26:34 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: The_Republican
at least SOMEBODY learned from the BEAST as to what to say in a hearing...
7 posted on 06/18/2008 5:27:08 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: The_Republican

I actually watched this witch hunt...er, hearing.

Carl Levin kept yelling “What do you mean you don’t remember seeing this memo, and this memo, and this memo.”

When a more sane questioner had a turn, as it happened neof the “evil” memos were adressed to him or his department.


8 posted on 06/18/2008 5:27:14 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Eww..


9 posted on 06/18/2008 5:28:01 PM PDT by The_Republican (Conservatives are in trouble because they hate Scarlett Johanson.)
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To: Bahbah

That was supposed to be “none of.”


10 posted on 06/18/2008 5:28:29 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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To: Bahbah

That was supposed to be “none of.”


11 posted on 06/18/2008 5:28:29 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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To: The_Republican
Irony.

I'm sure some anti American types would be fine using any tactics to get info from Karl Rove or this guy.

It all depends on who you think the real enemy is.

12 posted on 06/18/2008 5:32:13 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: The_Republican

Anybody who pisses Carl Levin off is a hero in my book.


13 posted on 06/18/2008 5:32:50 PM PDT by Nuhna di Abuv
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To: Nuhna di Abuv

Being questioned by Carl Levin should be considered torture. Listening to it certainly is.


14 posted on 06/18/2008 5:39:58 PM PDT by Twotone
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To: The_Republican

“William “Jim” Haynes II, the man who blessed the use of dogs, hoods and nudity to pry information out of recalcitrant detainees”

If the author had a memory, or did any research, he would discover that it was prison guards who did that. And they were either tried or court martialed.


15 posted on 06/18/2008 5:58:52 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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“the use of dogs, hoods and nudity to pry information out of recalcitrant detainees”

As an American citizen, I approve those methods.


16 posted on 06/18/2008 7:20:02 PM PDT by Liberty 275
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To: The_Republican

All of this is an attempt to smear President Bush, the best President we have had in generations. I am so tired of Democrats going after a man who has been God-sent to lead our nation.


17 posted on 06/18/2008 8:33:05 PM PDT by YukonAK
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To: YukonAK

/s?


18 posted on 06/18/2008 8:49:41 PM PDT by The_Republican (Conservatives are in trouble because they hate Scarlett Johanson.)
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Sorry Levin. But a dog barking at a terrorist is not torture. A blindfolded terroist is not a victim of torture. A terrorist with a gal's panties on his head is not being tortured. Levin is a vile, disloyal, traitor, attacking those who defend America and aiding those who attack it. His Michigan constituents include many Islamic extremists and he is posturing for their votes. Like many of his kind, he has no real loyalty to, or love for, America.
19 posted on 06/18/2008 9:55:53 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: The_Republican

I wonder if the Post made any similar remarks about Hillary’s answers to a Congressional hearing.

As I recall she made about 240 responses of “I don’t remember” or “I have no specific recollection,” etc.


20 posted on 06/19/2008 8:15:49 AM PDT by wildbill (Don't tread on our quotations!)
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