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We're not going to pay AP's extortion fees and we're not going to allow them to control free speech!
Recent AP vs fair use threads ^ | June 17, 2008 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 06/17/2008 1:23:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

This is our Boston tea Party.

The Associated Press wants to levy a $12.50 and up license fee (aka extortion fee) on any blogger who quotes more than 4 words from one of their propaganda pieces. This is an outrageous attempt to control the blogosphere and free speech itself. To hell with their license fee and to hell with the AP. Any AP article that gets posted to FR will be jettisoned into the harbor posthaste.

Please do not post any AP material to FR excerpted or not.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: achillwind; agitprop; americanpravda; antiamericanpress; ap; apbias; associatedpress; asspress; censorship; copyright; dbm; fairuse; faq; fascists; freepspeech; freespeech
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To: Blennos
No great loss... The wildly partisan “news” outlets such as AP and Reuters are helping themselves to ... extinction.

Actually, the site might be more enjoyable without so much liberal AP propaganda. You're right Blennos, no great loss...

81 posted on 06/17/2008 2:06:11 PM PDT by GOPJ ("I'm afraid after I die, I'll be voting Democrat" - Freeper potlatch)
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To: ConservativeMan55
They are trying to control free speech. - I thought they were trying to get paid for the product they produce, like any American business, how are they trying to control free speech?
82 posted on 06/17/2008 2:06:17 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Orange1998

Rush has been talking about how AP abuses their virtual monopoly on print news media in this country. Something like 4,000 newspapers.


83 posted on 06/17/2008 2:06:22 PM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: modest proposal

Maybe we could share a lawyer...
This is beyond ridiculous, Fair Use allows more than 4-7 words.
I do understand Jim’s position, FR can’t afford to defend another Fair Use lawsuit. It’s someone else’s turn.


84 posted on 06/17/2008 2:07:14 PM PDT by smithone
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To: Jim Robinson

I wish the AP luck on collecting those fees....


85 posted on 06/17/2008 2:07:45 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: dead

I consider this move by AP to be more problematic for them than for the rest of us. No one will give the articles exposure other than some mainstream outlets which less and less people use anyway.

Maybe the AP will get lost in wake of the rest of the worlds press.


86 posted on 06/17/2008 2:08:11 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (Government tends to never fix the problems it creates in the first place)
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To: SF Republican
how are they trying to control free speech?

Associated Press expects you to pay to license 5-word quotations [barred if damages AP reputation] (Boing Boing June 17, 2008 Cory Doctorow)

It gets better! If you pay to quote the AP, but you offend the AP in so doing, the AP "reserves the right to terminate this Agreement at any time if Publisher or its agents finds Your use of the licensed Content to be offensive and/or damaging to Publisher's reputation."

87 posted on 06/17/2008 2:09:49 PM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: All

Something I just thought of - how in the world is someone going to write a research paper, publish it online, and how is one supposed to give citations and such? This is just absurd!


88 posted on 06/17/2008 2:10:06 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (My Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & NEW http://exposingobama.wordpress.com)
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To: SF Republican
I thought they were trying to get paid for the product they produce, like any American business, how are they trying to control free speech?

Are you defending some make up right to not allow even a few words quoted from one of their articles?

89 posted on 06/17/2008 2:10:25 PM PDT by smithone
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To: SF Republican

They are trying to stifle any commentary on their articles.


90 posted on 06/17/2008 2:10:34 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Miss Didi

Who owns the rights to Winnie the Pooh anyway? they should be making a killing after that one. lol


91 posted on 06/17/2008 2:10:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Driving the AP out of business is a grand patriotic project!


92 posted on 06/17/2008 2:11:38 PM PDT by devere
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To: dead

You can always say something like this in response to one of their propaganda pieces:

“According to the Associated Press in an aricle published on June 17, 2008, partly entitled ‘It’s all America’s fault’ (notice it’s less than five words) America sucks. They’re now reporting that the war is lost and we should surrender to the terrorists immediately. Actually, they claim it’s all Bush’s fault. They’re also saying that the Osama-Obama/Clinton ticket is unbeatable and we should just cancel the election and let them take office early.”

(and post a link to back up your critique)


93 posted on 06/17/2008 2:12:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: LibertyRocks

I’m sure it will be SELECTIVELY enforced.

So basically if they see commentary on one of their articles and they don’t like it.. they’re going
to take you to court.


94 posted on 06/17/2008 2:13:19 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

What is next? Charging for orally quoting an AP article during a discussion about politics?


95 posted on 06/17/2008 2:13:42 PM PDT by modest proposal (Obama 08: all aboard for the Moron Train to Hell)
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To: NormsRevenge

Milne’s family still owns Winnie The Pooh but Disney Corp. fights them to make it a public domain work.

See Disney fights both sides of the argument, that Mickey Mouse should NEVER lapse and that works they did license SHOULD lapse.


96 posted on 06/17/2008 2:13:51 PM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: ResponseAbility
Maybe the AP will get lost in wake of the rest of the worlds press.

We’ll know their demise is truly tragic, if there’s a stuffed toy in the wreckage.


97 posted on 06/17/2008 2:14:02 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: doug from upland
HA!! Here is what ticked me off about AP.

How the AP Used Rush to Start Narrative on the Whitey Rumor

98 posted on 06/17/2008 2:14:55 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Typical white person, bitter, religious, gun owner, who will "Just say No to BO in Nov.")
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To: Jim Robinson
I guess paraphrasing it is.

Sucks though, since mocking their exact words is so much more effective. They've got the lawyer army though.

Hopefully, they'll grow increasingly marginalized as they intentionally ban themselves from the arena of open debate.

99 posted on 06/17/2008 2:17:04 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: weegee; Jim Robinson

What about AP photos?


100 posted on 06/17/2008 2:17:13 PM PDT by txhurl
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