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We're not going to pay AP's extortion fees and we're not going to allow them to control free speech!
Recent AP vs fair use threads ^ | June 17, 2008 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 06/17/2008 1:23:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

This is our Boston tea Party.

The Associated Press wants to levy a $12.50 and up license fee (aka extortion fee) on any blogger who quotes more than 4 words from one of their propaganda pieces. This is an outrageous attempt to control the blogosphere and free speech itself. To hell with their license fee and to hell with the AP. Any AP article that gets posted to FR will be jettisoned into the harbor posthaste.

Please do not post any AP material to FR excerpted or not.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: achillwind; agitprop; americanpravda; antiamericanpress; ap; apbias; associatedpress; asspress; censorship; copyright; dbm; fairuse; faq; fascists; freepspeech; freespeech
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To: TribalPrincess2U
BTW— one doesn’t PRODUCE news stories...one REPORTS THE NEWS.

Well, there you have it. The AP has it exactly backwards since, if they report that "building ABC on Main Street burned down last night, and arson is suspected", no one else can report it.

That should really go over...

How many ways can you verbalize simple facts?

221 posted on 06/17/2008 3:36:48 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: txflake
What about AP photos?
They are also under attack.

See my post 222

222 posted on 06/17/2008 3:38:07 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog

Thanks for that info.


223 posted on 06/17/2008 3:38:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; All
What's FR Congressman BillyBob's take on this?

Isn't he a free speech lawyer?

Anybody know how to contact him for his input?

224 posted on 06/17/2008 3:40:08 PM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast (It not for double-standards, the Left would have no standards at all.)
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To: presently no screen name
I said THE BENCH. Yes, I answered your question. And yet when I ask YOU a question, you say I am inserting myself? And you call that work? No I never called that work.
225 posted on 06/17/2008 3:42:27 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: RonDog

“...can we use copyrighted material under the commonly observed fair
usage rules without getting hauled into court?”

Somewhere, Stalin is smiling.
At his fellow-travelers at the AP that want to print anything they
want.
And never, ever be criticized.
Or exposed as shills and/or liars.


226 posted on 06/17/2008 3:42:27 PM PDT by VOA
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To: ElkGroveDan

*Gasp*

FR is not your home page?


227 posted on 06/17/2008 3:42:48 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Jim Robinson
Ironically, their new policy will deny themselves free speech when few people pay to quote their propaganda.
228 posted on 06/17/2008 3:42:51 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Jim Robinson

AP? Advocacy Press as Michelle Malkin calls them...or more like Addled Pablum


229 posted on 06/17/2008 3:43:38 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: Jim Robinson

There is no loss in not linking to AP. They are not a news organization. They are a liberal propaganda outlet, not much different than the DNC.


230 posted on 06/17/2008 3:44:32 PM PDT by twntaipan (NOBAMA! Say No to B.O.!)
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To: ClancyJ
Do you pay for quoting a Time Magazine article? Do you pay for quoting a newscast on TV? No I do not.
231 posted on 06/17/2008 3:45:34 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: SF Republican

See post # 135.


232 posted on 06/17/2008 3:45:55 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Jim Robinson

The first half of your thread title is accurate, but the second half is not true at all. You are letting them control free speech by instantly giving in to their demand. That’s a demand which is unsupported by the law and patently absurd on its face.

I understand your reluctance to revisit the LA Times/Wash Post, but even those buttheads allowed excerpts. With no AP content at this forum, the number of news threads will diminish.

Probably quite significantly.

If you’re going to take this approach, you might as well decide that no material may be posted here without the express written consent of the author. Get it over with now, because if the AP can simply dictate law, so can everyone else.

I declare that no one may take a picture of my house, my car, or my dog. If you agree to a license fee of $1 million dollars, I’ll let you do it, but if I don’t like the picture you took, I’ll revoke the license.

It’s complete nonsense.


233 posted on 06/17/2008 3:46:05 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Jim Robinson

If you really want to screw them, just summarize the article.


234 posted on 06/17/2008 3:46:18 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Does this include AP photos too?


235 posted on 06/17/2008 3:46:35 PM PDT by silent_jonny (Part of me is intrigued and the other part is disgusted at the part that is intrigued.)
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To: SF Republican

Are you with the AP?

I don’t get a paper except on Wednesdays and weekends, and I will be cancelling that.

Therefore, I can not quote from that paper?

Why are the offering articles online then? No quoting of any article anywhere?


236 posted on 06/17/2008 3:46:48 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Jim Robinson
Works for me since I don't read them anyway, in fact if I see AP (only two words!) in the article I immediately quit reading. I don't think this will, or should, stand the test of law. This is tantamount to saying you can read this but you may not discuss it. Certainly the blogsphere should be accorded the privileges of the First Amendment to the Constitution.
237 posted on 06/17/2008 3:48:39 PM PDT by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: Jim Robinson

If you really want to screw them, just summarize the article.


238 posted on 06/17/2008 3:48:39 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: bert
                    THREE WORDS

239 posted on 06/17/2008 3:48:57 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Jim Robinson

AP may be saying so, but I don’t think they can include the title of an article in their stated limit or limit quotes to four words and not make a joke out of Fair use. This is a power play in an election year.


240 posted on 06/17/2008 3:49:39 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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