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Nuclear Ring Reportedly Had Advanced Weapon Design
NY Times ^ | June 15, 2008 | DAVID E. SANGER

Posted on 06/15/2008 9:55:46 AM PDT by neverdem

WASHINGTON — American and international investigators say that they have found the electronic blueprints for an advanced nuclear weapon on computers that belonged to the nuclear smuggling network run by Abdul Qadeer Khan, the rogue Pakistani nuclear scientist, but that they have not been able to determine whether they were sold to Iran or the smuggling...

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It was not until 2005 that officials of the I.A.E.A., which is based in Vienna, finally cracked the hard drives on the Khan computers recovered around the world. And as they sifted through files and images on the hard drives, investigators found tons of material — orders for equipment, names and places where the Khan network operated, even old love letters. In all, they found several terabytes of data, a huge amount to sift through.

“There was stuff about dealing with Iranians in 2003, about how to avoid intelligence agents,” said one official who had reviewed it. But the most important document was a digitized design for a nuclear bomb, one that investigators quickly recognized as Pakistani. “It was plain where this came from,” one senior official of the I.A.E.A. said. “But the Pakistanis want to argue that the Khan case is closed, and so they have said very little.”

In public statements, Pakistani officials have insisted that the Khan “incident,” as the call it, is now history, and they publicly declared nearly two years ago that their investigations are over.

A senior Pakistani official, interviewed in Islamabad in April, said that the information provided by the I.A.E.A. was “vague and incomplete,” and he insisted that because Dr. Khan’s laboratories specialized in the manufacture of the equipment needed to enrich uranium, “he was not involved in weapons designs.”

But investigators have no doubt that he was the source of the digitized bomb design...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abdulqadeerkhan; aqkhan; aqkhannetwork; iaea; nuclear; nuclearbombs; nuclearwarheads; nuclearweapons; nukes; pakistan; proliferation; wmd
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1 posted on 06/15/2008 9:55:47 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I have stopped worrying about this. If they bomb us, then we will bomb them. By the time everyone has had their turn bombing each other, a truce will be called because no one will be left.


2 posted on 06/15/2008 10:06:12 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: neverdem

These peoples’ capabilities will be underestimated at everyone’s peril.


3 posted on 06/15/2008 10:07:49 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: neverdem

This is not possible, my “liberal” friends and relatives told me so.

They don’t have the technology, the centifuges, the wherewithall, etc. to build and deliver a nuke to NYC, DC and other American cities, so I’m not worried, depressed or paranoid about it at all. OK, sarcasm off.

We have nothing to worry abou,......BOOM!!!

If you think that 9/11 was bad (and of course, the dim Dhims DON’T) just wait til the nuclear 9/11 to come.


4 posted on 06/15/2008 10:16:09 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
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To: Dustbunny
I have stopped worrying about this. If they bomb us, then we will bomb them. By the time everyone has had their turn bombing each other, a truce will be called because no one will be left.

A nuclear exchange will not determine "who is right", but rather "who is left"!    I have no doubt we will prevail, I just don't know if it would be that much better than loosing?

Regards,
GtG

PS That reminds me of an old political cartoon in which a "hollow-eyed" grunt stood alone on a blasted hilltop, smoking wreckage and bomb craters as far as the eye could see. He said "We won, I think"...

5 posted on 06/15/2008 10:29:52 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: neverdem

Is this the third thread? When it gets to eight it might have some modality.


6 posted on 06/15/2008 10:34:13 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: RightWhale
Is this the third thread?

Where's the first and second? I want to decide which one to link. Maybe I'll link all three.

7 posted on 06/15/2008 10:37:06 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

I have zero faith in the I.A.E.A.

Does anyone believe the people in the UN can keep this information secure?


8 posted on 06/15/2008 10:39:56 AM PDT by dila813
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To: neverdem

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2031438/posts
But who knows if this is the first or the tenth?


9 posted on 06/15/2008 10:43:04 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
In the present environment, if we don't get off our fat butts, a low level nuclear or high explosive/nuclear detonation in one of our large cities is almost inevitable. The amount of dollars now in the hands of terrorists strongly imply that they will be able to buy/make whatever weapon type they want.
10 posted on 06/15/2008 10:47:44 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: RightWhale

Thanks for the link.


11 posted on 06/15/2008 11:02:40 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-kaboom


12 posted on 06/15/2008 11:26:23 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
a low level nuclear or high explosive/nuclear detonation in one of our large cities is almost inevitable.

I would not call it a certainty, but the odds are not at all in our favor. Given the mindset of a Jehadist terrorist and his eagerness to die for his share of the virgins, we have lost our ability to depend on MAD to deter an attack. MAD requires a rational opponent and they don't qualify.

They don't have anything to lose except their life and they are prepared to throw that away too. We are certainly at a disadvantage unless we can locate the source of the problem geographically and disinfect the entire region. The Arabs recognize and respect brutal strength if we have the "stones" to use it.

Regards,
GtG

13 posted on 06/15/2008 11:40:53 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: dila813

:)


14 posted on 06/15/2008 11:43:44 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Dustbunny

One Trident submarine can lay waste to all of Iran. We do not have the balls to use it.


15 posted on 06/15/2008 11:45:32 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Pakistan and Iran will never have the nuclear capability to destroy the USA. The USSR did, but they had 15,000+ nukes, some of them truly giant in size.

It will be years before the Islamic nuclear powers have even 100 bombs, much less the capability to deliver them in a militarily effective way.

IOW, Pakistan and Iran in five years might be able to hurt us. We’d lose a few cities. What they will probably never be able to do is defeat us militarily, punish us to the point where we can fight no more. OTOH, about one hour after they launch an attack, their countries will be radioactive ash. Those of their leaders who are not insane are fully aware of this fact.

The nuclear threat by posed by Islamic nuclear powers is quite literally at least two and possibly three orders of magnitude less than that posed by the USSR in its heyday.

Let’s try to keep some sense of proportion to our panic.


16 posted on 06/15/2008 12:10:21 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: dila813

“I have zero faith in the I.A.E.A.”

The IAEA was set up to police nations that wanted to be policed. They have no power over “rogue” nations or groups.


17 posted on 06/15/2008 12:26:30 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: garyhope

I hear the same thing from liberals. “Oh, that can’t happen because it just can’t... blah blah blah.” These are the same people who will blame Bush when, not if, it does.


18 posted on 06/15/2008 2:14:11 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: neverdem
officials have said that the weapons design was far more sophisticated than the blueprints discovered in Libya in 2003, when Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi gave up his country's nuclear weapons program. Those blueprints were for a Chinese nuclear weapon that dated to the mid-1960s, and investigators found that Libya had obtained them from the Khan network.

And exactly HOW did Khan get Chinese blueprints for old nuclear devices to sell to Libya?

And how did China get reliable nuke blueprints in the 60's?
19 posted on 06/15/2008 2:15:18 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: neverdem
It was not until 2005 that officials of the I.A.E.A., which is based in Vienna, finally cracked the hard drives on the Khan computers recovered around the world.

Two years to crack security that encrypts the entire drive?

Thanks, NY Times, for offering up a little information to our enemies on how long their secrets are safe.

20 posted on 06/15/2008 2:18:26 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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