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1 posted on 06/14/2008 9:08:07 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

Who will get the disenfranchised bitter religious vote?


2 posted on 06/14/2008 9:11:10 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: Ooh-Ah
"It is a sure bet that the GOP will try to paint Obama as 'the other'--as a haughty black intellectual who has Muslim roots."

No. As a Radical Leftist Nutcase who has Muslim roots--and they won't have to "paint" him as one--it's what he is.

3 posted on 06/14/2008 9:15:45 PM PDT by Savage Beast (VOTE REPUBLICAN! = VOTE ANTI-DEMOCRAT!)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Oh for heaven’s sake, nobody thinks of Hussein as a “haughty intellectual.”

You could not be more of an Obama hater than I am, and I can’t stand how PHONY he is. He’s an actor, an inexperienced fraud who has never sat down in an office he was elected to and actually done anything whatsoever, much less anything of note.

Not an intellectual, and not haughty. Arrogant, yes. Not so grand as “haughty.”And he’s a MARXIST. Which makes him STUPID.

Add it up. He’s an arrogant stupid Marxist phony.

And I assure you, I eat far more arugula than he does.


4 posted on 06/14/2008 9:17:40 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Without question, this is the best analysis of the Obama dynamic within the Democratic race and, more importantly, the general election.

The libs in the MSM will cry racism all the way to the ballot box, but pigmentation has nothing to do with it.

6 posted on 06/14/2008 9:21:53 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Is this tagline governed by McCain-Feingold?)
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To: Ooh-Ah
"I'll have them n-----s voting Democratic for the next two hundred years."
Democrat President Lyndon Johnson
(Aboard Air Force One)
“Inside the White House” by Ronald Kessler.
Times of London, July 13, 2000.

7 posted on 06/14/2008 9:24:15 PM PDT by Savage Beast (VOTE REPUBLICAN! = VOTE ANTI-DEMOCRAT!)
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To: the anti-liberal
As you posted on Allen West's response to: Black Conservatives Conflicted on Obama Campaign:

At Michelle Malkin:

It’s not race, it’s arugula

By see-dubya  •  June 14, 2008 07:50 AM

The Weekly Standard’s Noemie Emery disputes the media’s facile, predictable racial interpretation of Obama’s poor showing in Appalachia. It’s not because of race, but rather reflects a deep national divide between action-oriented Jacksonians versus clerical, paper-pushing Brahmins:

Let us call this rival approach the Barone Manifesto, after its author, political analyst Michael Barone, who crunched the poll numbers for Obama’s primary battles with Hillary Clinton and discovered that while the former did exceedingly well with white voters in university towns and state capitals, he did poorly almost everywhere else. From this, Barone broke the electorate down into two large divisions–academics and state employees who live in these places, whom he calls Academicians, and Jacksonians, who live elsewhere, especially in the regions close to the Appalachian mountains.

Yep, that’s it. Academicians eat arugula, and worry about its price at Whole Foods. Jacksonians don’t.

There’s nothing wrong with being an academician or eating arugula (hey, I do), you’re just going to have a hard time selling yourself to Jacksonian America as the kind of bold leader they’re looking for. Even if you were the bestest “community activist” in all of Chicago.

Emery’s last paragraph is interesting:

Now let us imagine a different candidate, one who looks like Barack Obama, with the same mixed-race, international background, even the same middle name. But this time, he is Colonel Obama, a veteran of the war in Iraq, a kick-ass Marine with a “take no prisoners” attitude, who vows to follow Osama bin Laden to the outskirts of Hell. He comes from the culture of the military (the most color blind and merit-based in the country), and not the rarefied air of Hyde Park. He goes to a church with a mixed-race congregation and a rational preacher. He has never met Bill Ayers, and if he did he would flatten him. He thinks arugula is a town near Bogota and has Toby Keith on his favorites list. Would he strike no chords at all in Jacksonian country? Does anyone think he would lose 90 to 9 in Buchanan County? Or lose West Virginia by 41 points? For those Jacksonians who would be fine with a black man in the White House (not as tiny a group as Newsweek thinks), Colonel Obama is the one we are waiting for. When we will get him is anyone’s guess.

I don’t know about Colonel Obama, but there’s one politician on the scene this year running for Congress in Florida who completes Emery’s List (heh) pretty nicely: Lt. Col. Allen West. What an amazing biography– and he’s even against amnesty:

In my time spent in Afghanistan I saw first-hand how an unprotected border can destabilize an entire country. All you hear coming out of Washington is foolish rhetoric about writing new laws and creating new government programs that sound good on paper but do nothing to solve the problem. Our border patrol officers put their lives on the line every day protecting our borders and engaging in high-powered gun battles. The duties they perform go beyond those of an immigration official. They are defending our borders and it is time we equip them with the tools they need to secure our border. As your congressman, I will push to move the Border Patrol out of the INS and into the Department of Defense. This is not a social issue; this is a national security issue.

Furthermore, something tells me LTC West isn’t going to be very patient with the Supreme Court’s handwringing on interrogation.

LTC West’s feelings about arugula remain unknown, although I think we would be willing to overlook a few youthful indiscretions of that nature.

UPDATE: via Robert Stacy McCain, here’s a sample of LTC West speaking:

Not too shabby. (I think he’s wrong about American weapons going to bin Laden through our assistance to the mujahideen in the 80’s; OBL was in a separate group funded by the Saudis.) But seriously, good speech.

Note the part where West says his opponent has more money than he does.
Hint, hint.

Come on, what do you want, a video of Allen West chewing out CAIR as unindicted co-conspirators and “an insurgency in our country” and taking up for FISA?

Well, all righty then.

MORE: Back on Jacksonians v. Arugulaticians, here’s Cuffy with a pretty good photoshop.


11 posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:15:55 PM by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)

9 posted on 06/14/2008 9:28:26 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

What a wonderful article. I couldn’t agree more. A writer that has put what I’ve been thinking into words.

Yes!


10 posted on 06/14/2008 9:29:50 PM PDT by republicangel
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To: Ooh-Ah
EXACTLY!! Great analysis!
11 posted on 06/14/2008 9:39:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only the Marxist Obama can!)
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To: Ooh-Ah

I am a warrior voter. Jacksonian. Love this article.


13 posted on 06/14/2008 10:02:58 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Barack Obama consistently lost white voters

TWABO - Typical Whites Against Barack Obama.

14 posted on 06/14/2008 10:09:46 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Ooh-Ah

A very well written article that just about nails down the real divide in the American electorate.


17 posted on 06/14/2008 11:05:47 PM PDT by yooling ( "Ah, beer. The cause of and the solution to all of life's problems." H. Simpson)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Colonel Obama is the one we are waiting for. When we will get him is anyone's guess.

There is a black Lt. Col. running for the House in Florida that sounds like he would fit the bill someday (forgot his name though).

18 posted on 06/15/2008 12:25:44 AM PDT by Mogollon (Vote straight GOP for congress....our only protection against Obama, or McCain.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

A nice paean to Barone’s analysis.


19 posted on 06/15/2008 12:59:02 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Ooh-Ah
Barone broke the electorate down into two large divisions--academics and state employees who live in these places, whom he calls Academicians, and Jacksonians, who live elsewhere, especially in the regions close to the Appalachian mountains.

Excellent analysis, but too wordy. I'd call these groups the two Americas. One pays the taxes, the other consumes them. The group which pays the taxes is getting sick and tired of supporting a growing royal class.

21 posted on 06/15/2008 5:06:02 AM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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Time Magazine gets their history wrong, unsurprisingly:

Richard Nixon won in '68 with 43% of the vote. The angry whites voted for George Wallace in that election. And notice contempt that elite whites writing for Time have for middle and working class whites written off as the 'Silent Majority'.

22 posted on 06/15/2008 5:19:31 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Elected Republicans don't have even the survival instincts of an amoeba.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Thank you for posting. excellent article.


23 posted on 06/15/2008 5:23:29 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (What's more important? Your principles or supporting the troops? Vote McCain!)
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To: Ooh-Ah

email rescently recieved:
You don’t have to agree with me but you need to consider how you will use
your vote in November. We need to be INFORMED voters. I hope I have not
offended anyone, and I do hope the truth is not offensive to anyone. Do we
vote for someone because they are charismatic and can put across a speech
well? Do we vote for someone who’s mentor was a racist minister and who’s
wife was NEVER proud to be an American until her husband became the probable
nominee for President? Do we vote for someone who tells half-truths?
Didn’t we have enough of that with Bill Clinton who never seemed able to
find the REAL truth?

Maybe you feel you could NEVER vote for any Republican. Well, you have a
real choice in November. You could vote for Obama’s promise of a “change”
which he never really outlines and then live with what he ultimately decides
we need or you can vote for a man who would have willingly given his life
for this country.

Do we allow a backlash for the sins of our fathers due to slavery, to
determine who will be our President?

Search your conscience and really look into this man’s REAL background. I
believe that once you know him, really know him, and know his wife and the
people with whom he surrounds himself, you will NEVER vote for him.

I ask God to bless you with the knowledge we all need when we make decisions
such as this.

Obama’s Not Exactly’s:

1.) Selma Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough
to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in
1965.
(Google’Obama Selma’ for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about
its various untruths.)

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged,
well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was part
of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY,
your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn
a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence
in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to
overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is
Odinga’s follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak
to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification of that....and
for more.

Obama’s cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get
Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his
followers have burned Christians’ homes and then burned men, women and
children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama
SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama
and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she
does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to
mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1
man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic
and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language.
Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be
the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack
Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and
6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. While Barack Hussein Obama’s
father was from Kenya, his father’s family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein
Obama’s father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father’s
birth certificate even states he’s Arab, not African Negro). From....and for
more....go to.....

http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab- Americ
an,_only_6.25%25_African

7..) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily
at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31
years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

4-3-08 Article “Obama was ‘quite religious in islam’”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were
registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making
fac es (check your own book).

February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago:
Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer,
reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully
uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to
prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.” This is just
one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says “Obama’s narrative
is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.”

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says
you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience
- NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even
speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch
cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for
Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been
anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest
allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY,
you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya
and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were
just fine.

13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY,
Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and
never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - NOT
EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you menti on in your book. It
doesn’t, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 - NOT EXACTLY, here
you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough
experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Voting “Present” is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY,
they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church
groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTL Y, you were a senior
lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were asenior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you
didn’t write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just
14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was
rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation -
mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of March,
2008, state bills y ou sponsored or voted for have yet to be released,
exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY,
you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You
failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111
economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and
even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even
your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they
were not YOUR bills, but rather hand ed to you, after their creation by a
fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT
EXACTLY, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the
conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran
Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the
destruction off Israel.

30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY, you said let the
delegates decide.

31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses
that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate
during small windows of time.

32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you
passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.

33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used
tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

34.) I Don’t Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.

35.) I don’t Have Lobbysists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47
lobbyists, and counting.

36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY,
your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren’t in
office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.

38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY,
your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it


28 posted on 06/15/2008 6:02:49 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (IF YOU ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE BY 35 YOU HAVE NO BRAIN. W CHURCHILL)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Why Obama will lose is because he is another in a long list of extreme liberals (McGovern, Dukakis, Mondale, Kerry) that won the Democratic nomination but are too out of touch with mainstream America to win the general election. His liberal voting record will be thoroughly exposed, even though he will try to moderate himself just like Hillary did (and you see how successful she was in doing that). Bill Clinton was the only liar masterful enough to fool enough Americans to get elected (coupled with Ross Perot pulling away 20% of the vote from George Bush) but Obama is not as good a liar as Bill Clinton, although he will try his best. I’m waiting for Obama to showcase his “white roots” since you still need the white vote to win a general election in this country. There is an element of race in this election (Obama, his wife and minister are part of the “hate whitey” crowd) and that will tick some white people off enough not to vote for him, which it should. But the bigger issue is that this guy is the most extreme liberal that the Democrats have ever put up and extreme liberals don’t win general elections.


34 posted on 06/15/2008 8:11:20 AM PDT by Contra
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To: Ooh-Ah

Good article-I love the Jacksonian references, but I have always liked Barone..


35 posted on 06/15/2008 8:32:29 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Obama and Osama, whats the difference?)
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To: Ooh-Ah
My working class grandparents knew what Arugula was. Then again, they were also Italian. They were also drinking espresso long before Howard Schultz was even a thought in his father's head.

PA should be a win for Obama, as all of the black votes in Philly can't compensate for all of the elderly Catholics/Eastern Orthodox throughout the state who just can't bring themselves to support Obama, whether because of his personal tastes/worldview, his parlor pink criticisms of his own country, or (yes, I will admit), his race. They may not vote for McCain, but there is a good chance they will spend the first Tuesday in November visiting grandkids/great-grandkids and enjoying some Yuengling.

Watch also the Jews on the Main Line, and "liberal Republican women" in the Philly suburbs.

37 posted on 06/15/2008 10:52:25 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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