Posted on 06/12/2008 5:12:50 PM PDT by forkinsocket
TWO Muslim supporters of "violent jihad" discussed setting up a secret Islamic state in a remote part of Scotland, a court heard yesterday.
Away from the prying eyes of the authorities, it would provide a safe haven for those who felt "oppressed", jurors were told.
The community would be run according to Sharia law and eventually be used as a base to "discreetly train" for attacks agADVERTISEMENTainst non-believers.
The only drawback Aabid Khan allegedly identified was the availability of weapons.
Blackfriars Crown Court in London heard the online exchange was part of a "mass" of allegedly incriminating material found by police in Bradford and London two years ago.
Khan, 23, of Bradford, West Yorkshire, was the first to be arrested and was detained by police at Manchester airport on his return from Pakistan.
His "close friend" and the man he was talking to about the secret Muslim state was Sultan Muhammad, also 23, from Bradford.
Jurors heard that he went on the run after learning Khan had been detained, and fled to London where he was caught shortly afterwards.
Also in the dock was Ahmed Sulieman, 30, from Woolwich, south-east London, whom Muhammad allegedly hoped could provide him with a hiding place, and Hammaad Munshi, now 18 but then a 16-year-old from Dewsbury, West Yorkshire.
They variously deny 13 counts alleging possession of articles for a purpose connected with terrorism and making a record of information likely to be useful in terrorism between 23 November, 2005, and 20 June the following year.
Addressing the court on the third day of his opening statement, Simon Denison, prosecuting, said Muhammad's departure was so hasty he left behind a bedroom full of alleged evidence. Apart from some "dummy ammunition" for an AK47 assault rifle, there was a library of DVDs and CDs packed with jihadist propaganda.
Also recovered was an SAS handbook, maps of the London Underground, Jerusalem and Manhattan, a book entitled Suicide Bombings, an encryption code, photographs of a smiling Osama bin Laden, "extremely graphic" footage of the beheadings of American hostages in Iraq, and instructions on how to make arms and explosives.
Mr Denison said the web exchange between Khan and Muhammad about the secret state in Scotland was on 12 November, 2005. He told jurors it began with Muhammad, a Royal Mail sorter, explaining how he and colleagues had allegedly been chatting about hijrah or emigration for Muslims feeling oppressed in Britain.
He then continued: "So like maybe a remote part of Scotland – people were like 'What the hell?' – at least to a place where there were Muslim communities."
Khan is said to have replied: "A group of Muslims can go to a remote place and set up a mini Sharia state and they can rule according to Sharia law, like this and stay there, building them up and their children up, preparing for fitness, and then launching jihad once they strengthen themselves."
Mr Denison claimed Khan added: "In the UK you can isolate with a group discreetly and train, but better in the US as they have weapons. Over here, weapons is problem."
The trial continues.
Tartan burkas?
"Addressing the court on the third day of his opening statement, Simon Denison, prosecuting, said Muhammad's departure was so hasty he left behind a bedroom full of alleged evidence. Apart from some "dummy ammunition" for an AK47 assault rifle, there was a library of DVDs and CDs packed with jihadist propaganda. Also recovered was an SAS handbook, maps of the London Underground, Jerusalem and Manhattan, a book entitled Suicide Bombings, an encryption code, photographs of a smiling Osama bin Laden, "extremely graphic" footage of the beheadings of American hostages in Iraq, and instructions on how to make arms and explosives."
In the States they have two problems.
1. Here, we Infidels have weapons, too.
2. Muslims are notoriously unsuccessful any time the playing field is anything resembling level.
We shoot back, though. BTT.
Don’t let them do it unless they put on kilts first. Force them to stay in style.
WTF?
Remote part of Scotland... eh. The wee midgies will eat them alive.
No joke. There is a reason that large parts of rural Scotland remain unpopulated.
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