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I guess they have it all on computer now, since this is obviously not a 1961 document.


1 posted on 06/12/2008 12:30:51 PM PDT by pissant
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Good luck trying to get a Social Security card with that! They require an official birth certificate - with the raised seal.

If that is Social Security’s requirement, do the American people deserve less?

And that name, repeat it loud and often.


40 posted on 06/12/2008 12:50:28 PM PDT by NTHockey
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OK. I’ve been thinking about it. I don’t know about Hawaii, but it seems to me that if they released a birth certificate it should either be a) a photo copy of the original record, with an embossed seal on it; or b) a new certificate, certified as a genuine copy with an embossed seal.

If, as it appears, this is a fairly modern version, then it is not a photocopy of the original. Yet it is said to be a photocopy.

What state would make a NEW version of the original and THEN PHOTOCOPY it? That doesn’t make sense.

Of course we don’t know that it is a photocopy, since it has been digitally photographed and posted on Daily Kos, which is a lying leftist website sponsored by a corrupt manipulator, George Soros.

I think we need more evidence than this.

And we come back to my original question, as well. Why, if this is what the real certificate says, has Obama been refusing to release it to legitimate inquiries for more than a year?


41 posted on 06/12/2008 12:50:51 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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No way is this “original”. It’s a well known fact that BO! signed his own BC then healed the sick and blind in the hospital before leaving..../s


43 posted on 06/12/2008 12:51:12 PM PDT by Coffee200am
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I ain't worried about the circumstances of his birth...I'm worried about him!
45 posted on 06/12/2008 12:51:25 PM PDT by Coffee200am
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I was born in Hawaii and had to order a copy of my birth certificate not too long ago. It looks exactly like this one. Anyone chasing this as a fake is wasting time unless they want to say someone inside the Dept of Vital Statistics in Hawaii was paid off to issue this or something along those lines.


48 posted on 06/12/2008 12:52:35 PM PDT by KJC1
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http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0007.htm

Adoption? Name change?
Sex change??


50 posted on 06/12/2008 12:53:04 PM PDT by tumblindice (Who put the bam in Obama lama ding dong?)
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Yep, this is how they do it nowadays. I had to order a copy of my birth certificate from Virginia a couple years ago, and I got a freshly computer-printed document with an official seal on it instead of some dog-eared copy from 1966. My wife still has a photocopy of her original birth certificate from 1974, but reproductions are printed at the time they’re requested.

}:-)4


53 posted on 06/12/2008 12:56:21 PM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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There are two ways that one can be born as an American citizen. Jus Solis is the first. This is Latin for Law of Soil. Essentially, if you are born on American soil, you are a US citizen. the second way that one can be born as a US citizen is if either of your parents is a US citizen. This is known as Jus Sanguinis. That is LAtin for Law of Blood.

Whether Dumbo was born in the USA or not is irrelevent. His mother was a US citizen and therefore so is he.


55 posted on 06/12/2008 12:58:25 PM PDT by stefanbatory
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I’d be interested in some things I’ve seen on other birth certificates, like the age and nationality(citizenship status) of both parents.


59 posted on 06/12/2008 1:00:33 PM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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From what I read on LGF...The O!bama campaign staff gave this to the “screw’em” Daily Kos. Shows you just what the O!messiah is all about. Frightening.


61 posted on 06/12/2008 1:01:10 PM PDT by Coffee200am
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(Interestingly, in the lower right hand corner is the backwards reflection of a stamp, "June 6 or G, 2007". Did someone request or process this record about a year ago?)

If you magnify the image and look closely, the date is actually June 6, 2008. It looks like it's handwritten on the back. Not sure what the reason is for that.

64 posted on 06/12/2008 1:03:12 PM PDT by jellybean (Write in Fred! - Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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This looks like, sorry to say, one of those certificates I get when my dogs hips and elbows have been tested. Only less information on it. There should be a seal somewhere and perhaps an address of the parents; etc. If she gave birth in a hospital; shouldn’t there be an attending physician’s signature too?


65 posted on 06/12/2008 1:03:22 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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Don't birth certificates list the hospital, time of birth, and much more information including some type of raised seal. This thing is a joke.
66 posted on 06/12/2008 1:04:16 PM PDT by One_American
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Doesn’t look real.


70 posted on 06/12/2008 1:06:54 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Any Hawaiian Freepers have a birth certificate from the early 60’s that can be used as a comparison?


71 posted on 06/12/2008 1:07:05 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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No Hospital listed?


73 posted on 06/12/2008 1:08:13 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Barack Hussein McGovern Sounds Like Nicolae Carpathia)
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This document proves one thing. BHO is a bastard — in the technical sense.

Since his name is Barack Hussein Obama, II, rather than Jr., his parents were not married at the time of his birth.


74 posted on 06/12/2008 1:09:59 PM PDT by MediaMole
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No watermark which shows up in a photocopied or scanned document such as this or a death cert...........Doesn’t mean anything, its just something I noticed. I might be wrong too......


78 posted on 06/12/2008 1:11:53 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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I guess they have it all on computer now, since this is obviously not a 1961 document.

Is Mary Mapes now working at the State of Hawaii Health Department's Vital Statistics Administration or something?

81 posted on 06/12/2008 1:13:13 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD ("I'll have a Big Mac super-sized combo meal.... with a Diet Coke!")
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1)No Registrar signature?

2)No ages of the parents?

Also, there is that pesky little problem with no age listing...

"If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16."

FindLaw

How do we know Obama's mother met this standard?

82 posted on 06/12/2008 1:13:49 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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