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Group sending letters to troops in Iraq blaming them for 9-11
Fox News | 6/10/08

Posted on 06/10/2008 6:39:18 AM PDT by pabianice

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To: MEGoody
Anyone think any of our soldiers are even going to bother reading these letters?

The young people in the service that I know would get a big laugh out of this bit of stupidity. They would doubtless see the mail as the ravings of a lunatic that they are.

81 posted on 06/10/2008 8:10:01 AM PDT by JimSEA (Kaffur and proud of it.)
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To: MEGoody
Not a one? Can you prove that?

If I were to prove a negative I'd be the first human in history to do so.

82 posted on 06/10/2008 8:10:41 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: mnehrling
It is easy to prove. Go out and buy a case of beer and then go out and buy the same amount of Pot. In the formers case, you may have some problems yacking with your buddies over football and one may throw a can at you. In the latter, you put yourself in the position of serious bodily harm every-time you drop the soap. I think it goes without saying what causes less harm.

I seriously can't believe you posted that. That's the same exact logic the American Medical Association uses to justify their support for gun-grabbing. The whole, "if you get shot, that's pretty damn unhealthy".

83 posted on 06/10/2008 8:14:48 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: LibertyRocks; All
While they may not engage in this activity, they certainly seem to have no issue with undermining the WOT, something that I, and most Freepers, stand against, including our esteemed host who has made his distaste for RP and he merry band of anti war nuts very well known.

Be it simply in forums such as FR or in totally idiotic acts of groups such as these morons, every encouragement of the Anti War factions and their leftist supporters deserve to be called on the floor by those of us who are concerned with the future of our nation and its safety against those who wish to kill us.

Accusations? I think not, a simple look through the months of RP threads will confirm otherwise, the rhetoric by may RP supporters all but identical to the anti war left.

Are they equal to these people sending these letters, no, but on by a matter of a few degrees. Their thoughts, stances and rhetoric gives aid and comfort to these imbeciles who wish to write our troops and call them idiots, murderers and the like, and they deserve our total disdain at every turn.

You want to stop the letters? Well then you have to stop the stupidity that created the climate that would make fools such as these think it is a good idea, and in this particular case, that starts here at "home"...

84 posted on 06/10/2008 8:17:02 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: mnehrling; All

Can’t help it... you all sound like my children on a bad day - different topics of course, but still...

As far as ideas - you’re right, and I’m still thinking... I’m really not sure how I(we) would be able to ferret out those who are sending the letters. Not sure how in the world those running the adopt-a-soldier program would be able to tell who was going to be supportive and who wouldn’t before the letter actually reaches someone reading it.

Mockery probably won’t work with this guy - I’m sure he’s heard it all before. Public Humiliation for his treatment of our soldiers might be a start though - just bringing attention to his little project to those who would oppose it vociferously is a good start. Writing letter to him and others who may be supporting this effort might help perhaps? Again, still thinking...


85 posted on 06/10/2008 8:19:57 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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To: ejonesie22
including our esteemed host who has made his distaste for RP and he merry band of anti war nuts very well known.

Jim, as well as myself disagrees with Paul on his stances on the war, but we happen to think his small-government approach to domestic policy is worth pursuing. You know that little "RLC Liberty Caucus" link you see on your latest posts page? That's an organization started by Paul years ago and Jim thought enough of it to allow them to host their forum on his servers.

Well then you have to stop the stupidity that created the climate that would make fools such as these think it is a good idea, and in this particular case, that starts here at "home"

Then why don't you email Jim and ask him if you can be a moderator as obviously the current ones are not doing their job and allowing members who are "undermining the WOT" to stick around.

86 posted on 06/10/2008 8:22:26 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: pabianice

Sickening. I wonder what Lincoln, or FDR, would have done about this - not to mention Wilson. This slimeball is lucky he only has that “evil neocon” George Bush to deal with.


87 posted on 06/10/2008 8:26:53 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Just A Nobody; StarCMC

Yea, I caught part of it. What an a$$hole.

Maybe we can smack him down.

[Mr] T


88 posted on 06/10/2008 8:27:57 AM PDT by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: LibertyRocks
Mockery probably won’t work with this guy - I’m sure he’s heard it all before. Public Humiliation for his treatment of our soldiers might be a start though - just bringing attention to his little project to those who would oppose it vociferously is a good start. Writing letter to him and others who may be supporting this effort might help perhaps? Again, still thinking...

A whole bunch of us should sign up for his forums and creatively disrupt them. Like first pretend to agree with them and then give them a disguised link to internetisseriousbusiness [dot] com (FREEPERS, DON'T SURF THERE, NOTHING OFFENSIVE, IT JUST SCREWS WITH YOUR BROWSER WINDOW AND IS A PAIN). Fun, subversive stuff like that.

89 posted on 06/10/2008 8:29:43 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: ejonesie22

Well, I agree with you on the fact that I’ve personally seen many here who support Paul engaging in activities to undermine the WOT. You are also correct that much of the rhetoric coming out of the Paul campaign, and the LP incidentally are statements straight out of the anti-war “playbook”. Many are way past the technicality issues, and have started to engage in pure anti-war propaganda.

The thing is, no-one here was defending this guy, and no-one was arguing that this particular strategy was “OK”. Therefore, making off-handed remarks that suggested that ALL Paul supporters would behave in this manner is what sparked the arguments on this particular thread. Then it devolved into an argument about pot...

While it pains me to see my “former friends” of the libertarian and Libertarian variety being so dang liberal, I don’t think ridicule is a good form of persuasion.

Incidently, this subject is exactly why I am no longer a Libertarian (left the LP in 2002). I had no wish to be personally associated with people who were embracing the “left” and “liberals” more and more with each passing month since 9/11. As I said though, ridicule, name calling, and other such things that I’ve witnessed in arguments such as these over the past few years here is not what I’d call honorable behavior either.

OK, now I’m really done venting... ;-) I’ve got better things to do with my time, frankly - like figuring out ways to assure that Obama doesn’t win this election, and that we can stop the direction this election is heading in for the safety of our country.

*Stepping off my soapbox*


90 posted on 06/10/2008 8:31:31 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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To: jmc813

That might be fun. ;-) LOL


91 posted on 06/10/2008 8:32:50 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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To: All
truthers ha!


92 posted on 06/10/2008 8:44:48 AM PDT by Liberty2007 (Support your local conservatives.)
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To: mnehrling
ha, this one fits


93 posted on 06/10/2008 8:49:25 AM PDT by Liberty2007 (Support your local conservatives.)
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To: jmc813
I have been through all that enough on the RP threads of last year. I know where JR stood pretty quick, and it was exactly where I stood. Indeed I think it was out of deference to the liberty folks and others that he allowed things to go as long as they did and still do, and I sense it saddened him some to see otherwise solid folk, as well as some not so solid, taking an anti war stance.

In the end there is some advantage to leaving things as they have been with the exception of the most egregious posters, it show the weakness of the anti war position and those who take it even in the guise of “Conservatives”

94 posted on 06/10/2008 8:53:07 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: jmc813
That's an organization started by Paul years ago..

Actually not, he was an early member, but it was started by Eric Dondero and several others (Neil Boortz, Helen Chenoweth, Jack Metcalf), Paul was just on an 'advisory board' but not a founder. As you know, Eric Dondero jumped the Paul ship (Paul's supporters claim he was fired by Dondero disputes and Paul hasn't officially said why) for many of the reasons we disagree with Paul on.

95 posted on 06/10/2008 9:00:10 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: LibertyRocks
Well, we tried reason for a while and got the old “Listen to us we are on a higher plane of existence and are channeling the Founding Fathers who all support Ron Paul and you are foolish Neocons/faux Conservatives who don't understand the Constitution” circular “logic” bit time and time again, so ridicule became the only option...

As far as the pot bit, well that always seemed to come up, since according the many of the RP anti war folks, the WOT is as bad as the WOD, and the had a magical way of tying the two together at some point in the conversation...

96 posted on 06/10/2008 9:01:56 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: trooprally
Maybe we can smack him down.

That's what I was hoping for! ;*)

97 posted on 06/10/2008 9:03:08 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: mnehrling
Paul's supporters claim he was fired by Dondero disputes and Paul hasn't officially said why

Wha?

98 posted on 06/10/2008 9:06:59 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: jmc813

Sorry, poorly worded.
Paul’s supports say he was fired.
Dondero disputes.
Paul hasn’t officially said why.


99 posted on 06/10/2008 10:01:33 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: jmc813
If I were to prove a negative I'd be the first human in history to do so.

So you cannot prove that 2 + 2 does not equal 5? I see.

So I guess you just want me to take your word for it. Why should I do that?

100 posted on 06/10/2008 11:15:16 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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