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The European Union, A Prison of Nations
Chronicles ^ | June 6, 2008 | Srdja Trifkovic

Posted on 06/07/2008 12:29:51 AM PDT by Bokababe

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This affects not only EU citizens, but also Americans who may say something here (or post something here to a website that is accessible to the EU) and get arrested over there in an EU country on vacation.

Believe it or not, the only people who could make this Lisbon Treaty come crashing down are the Irish, whose vote for or against on June 12th will make all the difference. I am hoping that the Irish will be the stubborn, proud and independent cusses they have always been, but the EU has poured a lot of money into Ireland to make the vote swing their way.

1 posted on 06/07/2008 12:29:52 AM PDT by Bokababe
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To: Bokababe

Let the pc b*stasrds copme and get me. I Euronate on them,but I won’t paeon them..


2 posted on 06/07/2008 12:35:34 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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You and me both, Sheik, although you perhaps a little more famously!


3 posted on 06/07/2008 12:40:57 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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The Irish should cave. The EU probably bought a couple of keggers and we all know what the Irish weakness is...(hic)


4 posted on 06/07/2008 12:49:54 AM PDT by max americana
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Saw this photo and just couldn't resist posting it. Not dead on to the subject, but darn close.


5 posted on 06/07/2008 1:01:32 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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And it's coming to a hemisphere near us. McCain or Obama
6 posted on 06/07/2008 1:11:18 AM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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I am afraid the decision to press ahead with the Lisbon treaty (which is simply the old so-called European Constitution refurbished) has already been taken by the Brussels establishment, no matter what the people may vote.

This is Europe, the oligarchies rule here.


7 posted on 06/07/2008 1:19:58 AM PDT by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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"The list of 32 offenses includes . . . xenophobia,. . . "

This means if a Brit doesn't like a Frog he can be arrested. Also, if anyone doesn't like the EU, he can be arrested.

If you have ever posted anything on the internet that is anti-EU, don't travel there.

yitbos

8 posted on 06/07/2008 1:26:24 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
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Among other things...

The Treaty of Lisbon responds to concerns raised by European citizens. For example, the political commitment to tackle the twin challenges of climate change and energy policy is fully reflected in the Treaty. For the first time, the treaties will contain a section on energy which assigns to Union policy in this sector the objectives of ensuring the proper functioning of the energy market, in particular energy supply and the promotion of energy efficiency and energy saving, and the development of new and renewable forms of energy.


9 posted on 06/07/2008 1:54:46 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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If we look at what PC-morons are doing to Mark Steyn with a depraved show trial in Canada (this is happening RIGHT NOW) then it is no stretch at all to expect that the “Unholy Alliance” of secular leftists and jihad-lovers will make terrible use of such an EU arrest warrant.


10 posted on 06/07/2008 2:20:32 AM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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This affects not only EU citizens, but also Americans who may say something here (or post something here to a website that is accessible to the EU) and get arrested over there in an EU country on vacation.

The answer is simple. Just as I refuse to visit Mexico and no longer visit Canada (though I am French Canadian descent and live only 45 minutes from the border) I would suggest that if this farce metastasizes into the abomination outlined in this article, American should simply no longer visit any of these 32 countries.

Let us see how the Lefties of the EU like loosing Billllions of our tourist dollars.

11 posted on 06/07/2008 2:54:12 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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sorry to tell you but there is allready a threaty between the US and EU (with some limitation) that if the EU wants you because you are suspected that you commited a crime, unlce sam will arrest you and hand you over. same goes for the other way arround.


12 posted on 06/07/2008 3:10:27 AM PDT by austrian
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Good grief!


13 posted on 06/07/2008 3:25:47 AM PDT by hershey
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The 27 EU countries will realize, all too soon, that they have lost their national sovereignty, and no longer have control of their country.


14 posted on 06/07/2008 5:34:01 AM PDT by chainsaw ( No racist Muslims in the WH)
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sorry to tell you but there is allready a threaty between the US and EU (with some limitation) that if the EU wants you because you are suspected that you commited a crime, unlce sam will arrest you and hand you over. same goes for the other way arround.>/i>

For someone who considers himself rather knowledgeable of current events, this one has somehow escape me.

Can you fill me in on details please.

Can only imagine that this MUST have been done on CLINTOONS watch????

15 posted on 06/07/2008 6:46:29 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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Thanks for letting us know about Mark Steyn, I didn't know. From Wiki:

Canadian Islamic Congress human rights complaint

Main article: Human rights complaints against Maclean's Magazine

In 2007, a complaint was filed with the Ontario Human Rights Commission related to an article "The Future Belongs to Islam", [33] written by Mark Steyn, published in Maclean's magazine. The complainants alleged that the article and Maclean’s refusal to provide space for a rebuttal violated their human rights. Further complaints were filed with the Canadian Human Rights Commission and the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal.

The Ontario Human Rights Commission refused in April 2008 to proceed, saying it lacked jurisdiction to deal with magazine content. However, the Commission stated that it, “strongly condemns the Islamophobic portrayal of Muslims . . .. . . . Media has a responsibility to engage in fair and unbiased journalism.” [34] Critics of the Commission claimed that Maclean's and Steyn had been found guilty without a hearing. John Martin of The Province wrote, "There was no hearing, no evidence presented and no opportunity to offer a defence -- just a pronouncement of wrongdoing." [35]

From June 2 to June 6, 2008, the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal heard a similar complaint made to it; a ruling is pending.

The complaint before the Canadian Human Rights Commission has not been dealt with in final form as of June 2008. However, on April 2, 2008, the head of the Commission issued a public letter to the editor of MacLeans magazine. In it, Jennifer Lynch said, "Mr. Steyn would have us believe that words, however hateful, should be given free reign. History has shown us that hateful words sometimes lead to hurtful actions that undermine freedom and have led to unspeakable crimes. That is why Canada and most other democracies have enacted legislation to place reasonable limits on the expression of hatred."[36]

16 posted on 06/07/2008 11:50:42 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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the European Commission’s “Framework Decision on combating racism and xenophobia” which criminalizes “belief in race colour, descent, religion or belief, national or ethnic origin as a factor determining aversion to individuals.” The Decision mandates that “racist and xenophobic behaviour must constitute an offence in all Member States ”

And so, a scant half a generation after the Cold War defeat of soviet totalitarianism, Europe effortlessly grows its own new version. They really like dictatorship over there.

I think in the end the effort to install free democratic societies in Europe will have to be counted a failure. It never grew there naturally and just doesn't seem to fit with their culture..

17 posted on 06/07/2008 12:28:59 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Yes, the Steyn “trial” is completely surreal - it is devoid of proper legal procedures, with merely a 3-member tribunal of leftwing activists presiding over a show trial which will institute a contemptible level of censorship of any publication that dares to criticize Islamo-fascists:

http://blog.macleans.ca/2008/06/06/liveblogging-the-macleans-trial-v-stand-and-deliver/

I wish the MacLean’s lawyers had presented only the most minimal defense, simply arguing against the right of the tribunal to adjudicate free expression issues at all. But I guess they have to make all their arguments that might be grounds for legal appeal if/when this decision goes against them.


18 posted on 06/07/2008 12:35:57 PM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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“This means if a Brit doesn’t like a Frog he can be arrested”
*****

Well, will the Euro Championships be banned then?


19 posted on 06/07/2008 2:22:36 PM PDT by max americana
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This means if a Brit doesn't like a Frog he can be arrested. Also, if anyone doesn't like the EU, he can be arrested.

This means its time to round up the American hating European politicians. That includes George Galloway and Ken Livingstone (aka Red Ken).

How much will these laws please them when they become subject to them?

20 posted on 06/07/2008 2:28:16 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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