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BATFE Apology
sali.house.gov ^ | June 6, 2008 | Secamndmt

Posted on 06/06/2008 2:42:43 PM PDT by SecAmndmt

WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Acting Director Michael J. Sullivan today apologized to Congressman Bill Sali and confirmed the agency reported inconsistent versions and details of a program giving agents engraved Leatherman tool kits.

(Excerpt) Read more at sali.house.gov ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; batf; batfe; billsali; govwatch
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To: Squantos

Damn I hate the F Troop.


21 posted on 06/06/2008 4:03:25 PM PDT by Eaker (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to have TheMom kill everyone you meet.)
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To: glock rocks

You got that right!


22 posted on 06/06/2008 4:04:37 PM PDT by Eaker (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to have TheMom kill everyone you meet.)
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To: SecAmndmt

I don’t like ATF, but I don’t get the issue with the Leatherman tools.

I don’t care if they get Leatherman tools every Christmas. I do care that they think ordinary people are the enemy.

Give them their little incentives. Shut down the agency, give these guys a transfer to the Bureau of Prisons or something, rent out their office space to something productive like maybe the postal workers union, but as far as I’m concerned the Leatherman is no big deal.


23 posted on 06/06/2008 4:11:00 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron
Give them their little incentives.

The Leatherman tool was to be the reward (read: incentive) they got for trampling on the rights of citizens.

No big deal?

24 posted on 06/06/2008 4:18:00 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: marron
as far as I’m concerned the Leatherman is no big deal.

Well, you're right there. That's not the problem. The freebie could have been a blender. The problem is that the agency promotes the inscription, and the inscription promotes extra-constitutional excess.

25 posted on 06/06/2008 4:19:49 PM PDT by glock rocks ( Woof.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

What you said.


26 posted on 06/06/2008 4:20:48 PM PDT by glock rocks ( Woof.)
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To: marron
I don’t like ATF, but I don’t get the issue with the Leatherman tools.

It's not about the Leatherman tool, it's about what they wanted engraved on the Leatherman tool.

27 posted on 06/06/2008 4:21:22 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: marron
I don’t like ATF, but I don’t get the issue with the Leatherman tools.

At my office bonuses and trinkets are given out too. However they are purchased with the company owner's money.

These trinkets are given out purchased with MY money to an agency that I despise.

You really cannot see a problem?

28 posted on 06/06/2008 4:25:30 PM PDT by Eaker (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to have TheMom kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Eaker; glock rocks
Alle Ihre ledernen Männer gehören auch wir !

All your leathermen belong too us !

29 posted on 06/06/2008 4:32:33 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: marron
...as far as I’m concerned the Leatherman is no big deal.

Well, as far as I'm concerned, they can stick the damn Leatherman up their collective..., uh, third point of contact.

Notwithstanding the fact that the damn things were bought with my, I say again, my tax money, the bunch of damn jack-booted thug idiots furthered the insult by using my, I say again, my tax money to have them engraved with an egregious and fascist-appearing reminder to always assume that anyone, I say again, anyone should first be considered a candidate for asset forfeiture, rather than encouraging a "how can I help this citizen?" attitude.

ATF can bite me. They are the single most useless bunch of governmental do-nothings in existence, today.

(Well, maybe a few demonrat senators fall into that category, too, but that's another, different rant.)

And any damn ATF agent that lurks on this forum can also bite me.

I know they lurk here.

30 posted on 06/06/2008 4:33:56 PM PDT by OldSmaj (Death to islam. I am now and will always be, a sworn enemy of all things muslim.)
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To: mvpel; Ol' Dan Tucker; glock rocks; Eaker; OldSmaj
It's not about the Leatherman tool, it's about what they wanted engraved on the Leatherman tool.

Reading the article I didn't pick up on the "Always Think Forfeiture" being engraved on the tool.

If thats the case, thats grotesque. I take back what I said about it not being a big deal. I stand by what I said about shutting down the agency.

31 posted on 06/06/2008 4:38:32 PM PDT by marron
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To: SecAmndmt

“Dear Congressman, sorry we got caught. love mike”


32 posted on 06/06/2008 4:53:55 PM PDT by stompk
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To: Squantos
.......”always think forfeiture” ?

It was a joke, right? Naturally they are heroes who stand for truth, justice and the American way

33 posted on 06/06/2008 5:16:48 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

All I can say is they better bring a Swiss Army Knife as well if they want my property...........:o)


34 posted on 06/06/2008 5:45:46 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Jack Hammer

Agreed.

How long would it take for this behavior to stop if:

a) the man running the agency wasn’t thoroughly anti-gun, and/or
b) the President picked up the phone and instructed the agency to stop trampling on the constitutional rights of citizens?

The fact that (b) has not happened is explained in an earlier reply in this thread...


35 posted on 06/06/2008 10:31:39 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: CJ Wolf

ping


36 posted on 06/06/2008 10:32:51 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt
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37 posted on 06/06/2008 10:48:17 PM PDT by IYellAtMyTV (Workday Forecast--Increasing pressure towards afternoon. Rum likely by evening.)
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To: Squantos

That is correct.

I remember reading some outrage about this, when the Federal procurement request came to light, apparently back in March of this year. There are links to those *.gov pages in these articles, but they’ve been pulled by the Feds.

http://apocryph.org/atf_chicanery_brings_right_and_left_together_at_last

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=688656&page=1

Below is a Google search for “always think forfeiture” leatherman. 790 hits.

http://tinyurl.com/42zomu


38 posted on 06/07/2008 2:02:30 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Non-bitter, Gun-totin', Typical White American)
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To: FreedomPoster; Travis McGee; hiredhand

Just damn............

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1989163/posts?page=38;q=1

I may start selling leathermen with that slogan at gun shows too REMIND folks who were up against !


39 posted on 06/07/2008 5:14:45 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

Oh, I like that!

“ATF-replica Leatherman! Just like the ones given to agents of your friendly FedGov!”


40 posted on 06/07/2008 5:29:48 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Non-bitter, Gun-totin', Typical White American)
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