Posted on 06/03/2008 8:01:28 PM PDT by newbie2008
OBAMA: We cannot impose a military solution on what has effectively become a civil war. And until we acknowledge that reality, uh, we can send 15,000 more troops; 20,000 more troops; 30,000 more troops. Uh, I don't know any, uh, expert on the region or any military officer that I've spoken to, uh, privately that believes that that is gonna make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground.
Oh, but it MUST not be a worry to us since the "anti-McCain-at-all-costs" crowd has told us we NEED Obama to ruin this country so we can "get back at the GOP"...
Do you mean to tell me that Rush LIMBAUGH actually CHALLENGES our beloved "anti-McCain-at-all-costs" crowd? How DARE he! As if he were anyone of note or authority on the matter...
/s (as if it is necessary)
From "45 Communist Goals":
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963:
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
'Goals' 4-45 can be found here or at many other sites through a web search for "45 goals":
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
From National Public Radio (NPR):
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764
"Chavez pledged that his country would 'stay by Iran at any time and under any condition,' state television reported. Ahmadinejad said he saw in Chavez a kindred spirit." "'We do not have any limitation in cooperation,' Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. 'Iran and Venezuela are next to each other and supporters of each other. Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'":
http://www.worldthreats.com/latin_america/Iran-Chavez%20Alliance.htm
From the Russian News and Information Agency:
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060727/51913498.html
From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
Russia, China flex muscles in joint war games
Reuters: Aug 17, 2007
CHEBARKUL, Russia (Reuters) - Russia and China staged their biggest joint exercises on Friday but denied this show of military prowess could lead to the formation of a counterweight to NATO.
"Today's exercises are another step towards strengthening the relations between our countries, a step towards strengthening international peace and security, and first and foremost, the security of our peoples," Putin said.
Fighter jets swooped overhead, commandos jumped from helicopters on to rooftops and the boom of artillery shells shook the firing range in Russia's Ural mountains as two of the largest armies in the world were put through their paces.
The exercises take place against a backdrop of mounting rivalry between the West, and Russia and China for influence over Central Asia, a strategic region that has huge oil, gas and mineral resources.
Russia's growing assertiveness is also causing jitters in the West. Putin announced at the firing range that Russia was resuming Soviet-era sorties by its strategic bomber aircraft near NATO airspace.
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-29030120070817?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0
U.S. Navy Intercepts Russian Bombers Flying Near Ships
Monday, February 11, 2008
WASHINGTON (Associated Press) U.S. fighter planes intercepted two Russian bombers flying unusually close to an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific during the weekend, The Associated Press has learned.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330362,00.html
New Pentagon Report: China's Growing Military Space Power
By Leonard David
Special Correspondent, SPACE.com
March 6, 2008
GOLDEN, Colorado — A just-released Pentagon report spotlights a growing U.S. military concern that China is developing a multi- dimensional program to limit or prevent the use of space-based assets by its potential adversaries during times of crisis or conflict.
Furthermore, last year's successful test by China of a direct-ascent, anti-satellite (ASAT) weapon to destroy its own defunct weather satellite, the report adds, underscores that country's expansion from the land, air, and sea dimensions of the traditional battlefield into the space and cyber-space domains.
Although China's commercial space program has utility for non- military research, that capability demonstrates space launch and control know-how that have direct military application. Even the Chang'e 1 — the Chinese lunar probe now circling the Moon — is flagged in the report as showcasing China's ability "to conduct complicated space maneuvers — a capability which has broad implications for military counterspace operations."
To read the entire publication [29.67MB/pdf], go to (U.S. Dept of Defense) :
http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/pdfs/China_Military_Report_08.pdf
"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...
"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'
http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html
Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs
February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com
A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.
The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:
Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.
First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[i.e. not win it]
Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.
I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.
I will not weaponize space.
I will slow our development of future combat systems.
And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.
Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.
You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.
Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:
http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp
"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."
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Obama Promises to Dismantle Our Armed Forces
by Robert Maginnis
Posted 04/10/2008 ET
(Mr. Maginnis is a retired Army lieutenant colonel, a national security and foreign affairs analyst for radio and television and a senior strategist with the U.S. Army)
YouTube has an undated 52-second clip of Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barrack Obama outlining his plans for America’s national defense. Obama’s presentation demonstrates either total naivete about important national security programs or he is just pandering for votes among the extreme left.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=25942
Note: Here is the *original* youtube video from the Obama camp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o84PE871BE
Human Events uses this poor quality copy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs
From "45 Communist Goals":
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963:
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
'Goals' 4-45 can be found here or at many other sites through a web search for "45 goals":
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
I used to think the best thing to do is ignore them, but I think I am going to just keep coming at them because the more you drill down on their theories, you expose their complete ignorance.
I know of whom you speak and I think we need to start a list and if Obama wins, these folks should not be allowed to post one negative thing about the new administration.
It blows my mind they are advocating giving liberals, not Democrats, but liberals the reigns and they try to pass themselves off as “conservatives”.
I know of whom you speak and I think we need to start a list and if Obama wins, these folks should not be allowed to post one negative thing about the new administration.
It blows my mind they are advocating giving liberals, not Democrats, but liberals the reigns and they try to pass themselves off as “conservatives”.
"Revolt With A Vote"?
Looks like Communist Party USA thinks Obama is someone who can deliver a *bloodless* revolution.
Dynamic Magazine Spring 2008 Double Issue!
Spring 2008, Issue 18
by Dynamic Committee, 30.04.2008 14:57
Author: YCLUSA [Young Communist League USA]
First published 04/30/2008 16:09 by (article_topic_desc)
Dynamic is the magazine of the Young Communist League USA. It includes art, politics, and culture written by youth, for youth.
The 2008 Spring Double issues includes articles about the youth impact on the 2008 elections, youth participation in unions, the writer's strike and its impact on a family that struggled through it, and much more!
Once on the site, click "youth impact" for article:
http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/941/1/36/
Obama-file 20: Young Communist League Backs Barack Obama-Again
The Young Communist League USA is the youth wing of the Communist Party USA.
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-20-young-communist-league.html
"MoveOn.org's nationwide network of more than 1,700,000 online activists is one of the most effective and responsive outlets for democratic participation available today."
--Communist Party USA (Unity and Coalitions):
http://cpusa.org/link/category/21/
See: MichaelMoore.com-->Links-->PoliticalAction (bottom of the page--CPUSA promo)
The Communist Party USA (CPUSA):
"We are a party of unity in action. We are an integral part of every struggle and movement for change to eliminate poverty and joblessness, against racism and for full equality. We are participants, initiators and leaders of every movement to make life better now and much better in a socialist future." Yeah, so they supported an oppressive dictator, like the Repubs and Democrats haven't? The CP is still around, has apologized for that whole Stalin thing, and has a quickly growing youth section.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/links/index.php?linkType=Political%20Action
The next one is also on his website...
The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?
-actual quote from Michael Moore (2004). It still appears on his website:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-04-14
From The Revolutionary Communist Party
A Viewer's Guide to Fahrenheit 911
Revolutionary Worker #1246, July 18, 2004, posted at http://rwor.org
http://rwor.org/a/1246/fahrenheit_911_guide.htm
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Ex prez jimmy carter with michael moore at 2004 democrat convention
Amen to that. I think it is time to call these folks out, because we have been giving them a free ride as of late. I had a back in forth with one on another thread and the more and more he replied, the dumber and dumber I felt for actually reading his replies.
Wow.An enemies list, of those who don't share the same right you do to express an unpopular opinion?...of freepers? Thats your proposal?
Uh, good one!
I say stand up and take accountability, because these crack-heads advocating this BS now will be the same ones denouncing Obama in January of 09. Guarantee.
Listen to the pundits...its a first in American polictics...a blackman is the Democratic candidate for President...wonderful qualifications, he’s black, therefore he is qualified to be President. A first in American politics...what if if he had two black heads, he would be twice as qualified...and if he had a white head and a black head...what a marvel, a real first in American polictics. What if he had a tatoo of a white toilet on his chest with Hillery being flushed down the toilet, he would be a champion for President...why do I see a cockroach winning the Democratic nomination...how did we get this far down the sewer...
Heck no! I propose we discredit them first and then ridicule and humiliate them. You know...the same thing we always do
I'm just not so sure about the "list" thing.
Let me clarify, if there are people that are not happy with McCain, that is fine, I doubt that there are many conservatives that were thrilled with his nomination. But, when you have individuals that are proselytizing a plan to put someone in office in order to set a greater plan (that was contrived at the service end of a crack pipe in my opinion) in motion, I think that needs challenged. We are not talking about voting for the corkmaster of the wine tasting club, we are talking about the president of the free world. That should not be taken lightly.
Trying to silence the political speech of an adversary is a natural trait of someone who is attracted to McCain as a candidate.
Obama may very well preside over the next U.S. Civil war... Shame really how the liberals stirred up all this vitriol and hate.
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