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Liveblogging the BC HRT, Day Two: A Day That Will Live in Entropy (Mark Steyn, and Macleans)
Macleans/Andrew Coyne ^ | June 3rd, 2008 at 12:18 pm | andrew coyne

Posted on 06/03/2008 11:31:47 AM PDT by fanfan

Lots of good coverage of yesterday’s proceedings, beginning with the mighty Ezra Levant, who had so much fun he’s staying on another day. Also Brian Hutchinson, my old stable mate at the Post, pays appropriate homage to the majesty of it all. Plus the great man himself, of course, and uber-blogger Michelle Malkin and Jay Currie and … well, I better get in while there’s a chance of a seat…

9:32 AM Habemus dongle! The good folks at Rogers — wonderful people, never said a bad word about them — have kitted me out with some sort of external modem thingie, so I will not be forced to type with my thumbs today. KDO, I don’t know how you do it!

9:34 AM The tribunal enters. There’s a little ritual that plays out each time: the two contending sides, and some of the spectators, rise, as you would for a real judge in a real court. The rest of us stay seated, in silent protest.

9:36 AM Faisal Joseph up for the complainants. He’s promising to treat us to a tour of some of the seamier parts of the blogosphere. No guilt like guilt by association. He dumped a bunch of material on the Maclean’s side only last night — and apparently some more stuff this morning — which would ordinarily be out of order but not, as by now you will have guessed, here.

9:40 AM Kurrum Awan back on the stand. Joseph entering a Sept 2006 Ottawa Citizen poll in evidence, showing that two in five Canadians back racial profiling. Aha, clearly the evil hand of Steyn at work: he’s already influencing public opinion even before the Maclean’s piece appeared!

Whoops - not a poll, just a clipping of a Doug Fisher column. (Doug Fisher!? I thought he’d retired by then?) The panel is solemnly studying it… And studying it…. And studying… Now they’re going to “retire” to consider it. In this case that means actually leaving the room — as often as not they just kind of swivel round in their chairs and put their heads together, like kids sketching out a football play, though I’m willing to guess the other two go along with whatever the chair, alpha-commissioner Heather MacNaughton, says.

9:53 AM I remain impressed with Steyn’s ability to influence opinion even in advance of publication. I admit this seems implausible. However, we must always remember, good people of Salem, that when when it comes to witches, all things are possible, natural and supernatural…

9:55 AM Here come da pseudo-judges. The Fisher clipping is ruled out of order…

9:57 AM Now entering three reports on racism and Islamophobia in other countries: the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia, a UN commission, and a third whose provenance I didn’t catch.

McConchie rising for the defense: “I think my friend’s memory may be a little imperfect.” The documents presented bear only a slight resemblance to the list of docs in the disclosure letter. Points out that the European report was on “potential” Islamophobic responses in the wake of Sept. 11 in the 15 European Union countries. The report, what is more, concludes that not every country is the same - different issues, different concerns.

The report whose name I didn’t catch before is a report on British Muslims, published in 2004. (A witch! A witch!)

The UN Economic and Social Council report, which he received last night, makes passing reference to Canada’s anti-terrorism law, Bill C-36. But nothing relates specifically to the situation in British Columbia, or the impact of the media on Islamophobia.

10:16 AM McConchie still on his feet. He’s wearing them down by attrition! I can’t follow — McConchie speaks at a level below human hearing — but Ezra tells me he’s suggesting to the tribunal that you can’t just accept any old pile of paper as an “expert” study, without reference to the credentials of the supposed experts. At least, that’s how they do things in a real court…

Uh-oh. The chair seems pissed. If you weren’t happy with their disclosure, did you bring an application for further and better disclosure? Well no. {Paraphrasing here.] If they’d given us a list, we’d have looked at whether they were clear enough. But they just said to us, we’re going to enter some documents that you have. As for UN reports, “I’m convinced they’ve churned out five or six in the last half hour. Probably more to come later today.”

Joseph cleverly rebuts: those may be the rules of evidence in a real court, but we’re not in a real court! He’s got a point there… (Well, he didn’t say “real court.” I beleve he said “at the appellate level.”

10:28 AM As for the irrelevance of reports on Islamophobia “across the pond,” well, “Islamophobia does not stop at the waters.” It’s a worldwide phenomenon. Reports were meant to illustrate the impact of Islamophobia, regardless of its precise location. “My friend wants you to judge the evidence before you receive it.” We’re breaking for probably half an hour or so while the panel considers the question.

11:13 AM And we’re back… Chair ruling on McConchie’s relevance and disclosure objections…


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; humanrightstribunal; macleans; marksteyn
There are links to yesterdays reports at the site.

Above is this mornings report.

Free speech. On trial. In Canada.

1 posted on 06/03/2008 11:31:48 AM PDT by fanfan
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To: GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ...

2 posted on 06/03/2008 11:32:36 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: FRiends
I hadn't seen this site.

http://www.freemarksteyn.com/

3 posted on 06/03/2008 11:34:54 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Entropy Squared; backhoe; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; styky

Is he referring to you ES?


4 posted on 06/03/2008 11:36:56 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan
A BTT. This is serious business but it's hard to keep a straight face. Maybe it's the clown costumes.

IOWAHAWK has given us his own thrilling interpretation...

5 posted on 06/03/2008 11:37:18 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: fanfan

Isn’t the Koran incriminating? Perhaps the defense should enter a copy shot full of real holes into “evidence”.


6 posted on 06/03/2008 11:43:50 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: fanfan

These “human rights” judges have the most pointless, useless jobs in the whole world. It’s like one of South Park’s satires of Canada. I’d rather be watching “Terence and Philip.”


7 posted on 06/03/2008 11:52:44 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
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To: Billthedrill
LOL!

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8 posted on 06/03/2008 11:55:59 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Paladin2
Isn’t the Koran incriminating? Perhaps the defense should enter a copy shot full of real holes into “evidence”.

Good idea.

If they want to outlaw hate speech, they should start with the koran.

9 posted on 06/03/2008 11:59:47 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

Well past time to get to the next phase in Canada.


10 posted on 06/03/2008 12:15:12 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“These “human rights” judges have the most pointless, useless jobs in the whole world. It’s like one of South Park’s satires of Canada. I’d rather be watching “Terence and Philip.””

Unfortunately they have the power of the state behind them to force the populace to kowtow to their wishes.

As soon as you accept the existence of such a body, free speech (and the country) is doomed.


11 posted on 06/03/2008 1:05:07 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Jack Black
Well past time to get to the next phase in Canada.

Now, which phase is that again? Is it the one where they take you to the camps, or is it the one where they just say "th'heck with it," line you up against a wall, and shoot you?

12 posted on 06/03/2008 2:26:10 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
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To: Jack Black

Of course, if by “the next phase” you mean voting from the rooftops, I have no idea whether most Canadians have the stomach for that.


13 posted on 06/03/2008 2:28:13 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
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To: fanfan
fanfan, while this click the picture link is primarily about our friends at Free Dominion's lawsuit(s), I have also included anything I could find on Steyn, Levant, and many others persecuted by these laughingly-misnamed and deceptive "human rights" zealots:


14 posted on 06/03/2008 2:56:46 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: fanfan
You may enjoy Iowahawk's take

Also check out your keywords for more articles on this. :)

15 posted on 06/03/2008 4:30:39 PM PDT by EveningStar (The safety of my country is more important than my ego, so I'm voting for John McCain.)
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