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However, Public Still Favors Stricter Gun Control

Yeah, that's the ticket. That's why the donkeys became pander bears about Second Amendment rights.

1 posted on 06/03/2008 10:45:43 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

GD right it does.


2 posted on 06/03/2008 10:47:29 AM PDT by wastedyears (Like a bat outta Hell.)
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To: neverdem

“5 percent say neither”

What, pray tell, do these people think that the Amendment says?


3 posted on 06/03/2008 10:52:37 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: neverdem
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

What part of "shall not be infringed" is confusing? I find "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" completely and totally clear, but that's just because I can read. Illiterates may reach a different conclusion, as demonstrated by the Democrats.

4 posted on 06/03/2008 10:52:39 AM PDT by RogerD
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To: neverdem

‘Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those
who do not.’

Thomas Jefferson

FIREARMS REFRESHER COURSE

1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.

3. Colt: The original point and click interface.

4. Gun control is not about guns; it’s about control.

5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?

6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.

7. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.

8. If you don’t know your rights, you don’t have any.

9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.

10. The United States Constitution (c)1791. All Rights Reserved.

11. What part of ‘shall not be infringed’ do you not understand?

12. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.

13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.

14. Guns only have two enemies; rust and politicians.

15. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.

16. You don’t shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.

17. 911: Government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.

18. Assault is a behavior, not a device.

19. Criminals love gun control; it makes their jobs safer.

20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.

21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.

22. You have only the rights you are willing to fight for.

23. Enforce the gun control laws we ALREADY have; don’t make more.

24. When you remove the people’s right to bear arms, you create slaves. (Just ask any WWII Jewish survivor.)

25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.


5 posted on 06/03/2008 10:52:42 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: neverdem
What if the First Amendment were similarly worded...would the left still require controls?

An educated population, being necessary to the enlightenment of an informed state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed.

7 posted on 06/03/2008 10:57:33 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: neverdem

As we all know gun control is a myth..........criminals do not follow laws. All such harms is law abiding working class Americans who follow all laws even when they disagree with em !

Gun Control is about human control. That’s what the jackasses know and want !

I have carried in some form or manner since the age of 16 when my grandfather gave me a 1911A1 as a birthday gift. I carried as a career serviceman and a deputy sheriff for a while and now in my job with uncle sugar again. Not a socialist rat alive that will ever disarm me “completely” with their seditious efforts. If they do such they become viable domestic enemies that are fair game under the oath I took to protect and defend against such .......foreign or domestic.

just my opinion of course.......stay safe !


8 posted on 06/03/2008 10:58:31 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: neverdem
However, once the U.S. Supreme Court rules, the candidates may be forced to give their opinion and gun control could become an issue in the general election.

Once the court makes a ruling, what could a candidate do to thwart the ruling if they disagree with it? Their personal opinion at that point has little if any value.

10 posted on 06/03/2008 10:59:31 AM PDT by vortigern (McCain hasn't given me one good reason to support him)
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To: neverdem

I think even the most basic question was not answered. The second amendment provides nothing. The Constitution does not grant rights, it sets limitations on the government with respect to our rights.


11 posted on 06/03/2008 11:03:13 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: neverdem
No, the 2nd doesn't provide the right to bear arms.
It restricts the feds from taking that right away from me.
13 posted on 06/03/2008 11:05:31 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: neverdem
Again, the only proper and right gun control is a nice tight shot group. Anything beyond that is tyranny.
14 posted on 06/03/2008 11:05:55 AM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: neverdem
Furthermore, the survey also finds that more of the U.S. public continues to favor stricter gun control.

What the public favors is less violence, and most believe erroneously that more "gun control" equates to more "safety" for the children and whatnot.

If people understood that gun control is about control, not crime, that number would decrease to include only the socialists that really just want everybody but the government disarmed.

15 posted on 06/03/2008 11:06:22 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: neverdem
more U.S. adults believe that the Second Amendment supports an individual’s right to bear arms.

This would indicate that two-thirds of Americans are able to read and comprehend concise and proper English grammar. I would take that to be a good thing but it does give one pause; why are one-third of Americans unable to read and comprehend that same concise and proper English grammar?

17 posted on 06/03/2008 11:06:42 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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Furthermore, by political party affiliation Republicans by 51 percent to 9 percent believe the Second Amendment supports individuals’ right to bear arms. Democrats also agree, though by a closer 41 percent to 22 percent margin. Independents are even more closely divided with 31 percent to 22 percent thinking that the Amendment supports and individuals’ right to bear arms.

Which proves something I've come to realize more and more lately. Self-righteous independents who keep crowing about bipartisanship are, in fact, ignorant dolts where the Constitution and liberty are concerned. The only thing worse than someone who is constantly spewing moral indignation is when a complete dumbass is doing it.
18 posted on 06/03/2008 11:07:58 AM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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To: neverdem
I come from Rochester NY and it is a "liberal" bastion. Even those with carry permits have to have their guns unloaded and have a trigger lock installed if they carry in the city limits. It would be easy to find a bunch of brainwashed sheep, that are used to the commie restrictions, to get these poll results. I am a bit shocked that they found as many as they did that believe the 2nd Amendment grants the right.

I moved out in '74 when I joined the Air Force and only go back to visit my Mom, who also listens/reads the mush they espouse up there.

19 posted on 06/03/2008 11:10:45 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: neverdem
Many U.S. adults still favor stricter gun control, although for the first time in 10 years, this is not a majority.

Oh, really? VPC and the Brady kids have been saying it's 70% in favor for, oh, how long now?

21 posted on 06/03/2008 11:12:48 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: neverdem

Was trying to make sense of the stmt
‘Even though many U.S. adults believe the Second Amendment
does support an individual’s right to bear arms, the public
does not feel this right should be achieved without some
gun control.’
and the words of my FIL came to mind. He thinks he should be allowed b/c theres no trust issue but his neighbors...well they’re all suspect and should be reined in. Yes, he of the Royal We party.


24 posted on 06/03/2008 11:22:17 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: neverdem

The majority of Americans can’t locate America on a map.


28 posted on 06/03/2008 11:30:22 AM PDT by kabar
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To: neverdem
NO. The second amendment does not provide the right of Americans to bear arms. It prohibits the government from infringing on our God given right to bear arms for defense of ourselves.
29 posted on 06/03/2008 11:30:49 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: neverdem
Second Amendment supports an individual’s right to bear arms or a state’s right to form a militia

It's not 'or', it's both. There is a semicolon between the two clauses indicating they are independent clauses, not either being dependent on each other.

31 posted on 06/03/2008 11:31:50 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: neverdem
And with regard to gun control:
  • A relative majority of U.S. adults – 49 percent

Okay, since when is 49% a "Majority"? Even with new math (sarc) it still take OVER 50% to have a "majority". The word they want is Plurality. Do they assume their readers are to STOO-PID to understand that word?

In any case this poll means squat. There's more to the 2nd Amendment than just what's written, to wit...

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Case closed!

oops, almost forgot... You, yeah you 'public officers' - Like Bloomie, Di-fi and Chuckie Shooooooomer, per the honorable George Mason you have NO RIGHT to own a gun, hand em in pronto 'public officers'. You have till midnight to disarm!

33 posted on 06/03/2008 11:33:53 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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