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Can the U.S. border fence be built on deadline without the help of foreign laborers?
Brownsville Herald ^ | May 31, 2008 | Aaron Nelsen

Posted on 06/03/2008 5:02:27 AM PDT by CWWren

With 670 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border fence slated for completion by year's end, construction companies in Texas are questioning the feasibility of completing such a project without immigrant labor.

The irony is not lost on businesses that have come to rely heavily on foreign-born and Hispanic workers to fill vacancies left by a shrinking domestic labor pool.

"Is it possible to construct a wall without undocumented workers?" asked Perry Vaughn, executive director of the Rio Grande Valley Chapter of the Associated General Contractors of America. "It's probably borderline impossible to be honest with you."

In recent years, the construction industry has seen a dramatic increase in undocumented foreign-born Hispanic workers, according to a Pew Hispanic report published in 2007.

Based on information collected from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the U.S. Census Bureau, the report also found that foreign-born workers held one in five construction jobs in 2006.

In Texas, that percentage is unquestionably much higher, said Jerry Nevuld, president and CEO of the Houston Chapter of AGC.

If foreign-born workers were taken out of the equation, Nevuld believes, it would put undue strain on an industry that is already stretched thin for skilled labor and make construction of the fence a near impossibility.

"There are a significant number of illegals working in construction," Nevuld said. "If you try to build a wall, but take a few thousand workers out of the workforce first, you could have some real problems."

Commercial construction operations are usually careful not to knowingly hire undocumented workers.

Businesses are required to have employees file the I-9 form eligibility verification form, but some undocumented workers invariably slip through the cracks in the system.

In the late 1990s, the Golden State Fence Co., a fence-building company in Southern California, hired undocumented immigrants to build millions of dollars' worth of fencing between San Diego and Mexico.

The company received several warnings, but federal agents found undocumented workers still on the job in 2005.

In 2006, the company agreed to pay $5 million and its executives pleaded guilty to hiring undocumented immigrants.

A start date for segments of the fence in Cameron County have not yet gone out for solicitation, said Barry Morrissey, a spokesman with U.S. Customs and Border Protection, but when they do companies that bid on those projects will be heavily scrutinized.

An industry already under the microscope, only companies accepted into the Construction Multiple Task Order Contracts program can even bid on government projects.

Despite the additional oversight, the likelihood for illegal labor working on the border fence remains a distinct possibility.

"It could happen anywhere in any industry on any given day," Morrissey said.

The agency takes immigration seriously, and companies caught using undocumented labor will face legal recourse, according to Morrissey.

"It's very plain," Morrissey said. "Legally, it's unacceptable. Contractually, it's unacceptable. If we find illegal immigrants working on these projects, we'll have to take legal action."

The AGC straddles a theoretical fence too.

Although the association favors immigration reform that would allow its members to tap into a reservoir of workers across the border, the association also supports increased border security and in some cases the presence of a physical barrier.

The potential for irony underscores the complexities of the immigration debate as few other circumstances have.

As director of congressional relations for AGC, Kelly Knott advocates for immigration reform for the construction industry.

She doubts that Congress will take action this year, believing that the situation will get worse before it gets better.

"They want to make it so hard on employers and the business community" Knott said, "that perhaps it will force Congress to take action."

Immigration is constantly on the mind of Raleigh Roussell, president and CEO of the Dallas chapter of AGC.

He hopes the issue can be resolved soon, so businesses can get back to focusing on projects.

However, he doubts it will impede the progress of construction on the fence.

"They'll find a way to get the job done," Roussell said. "I would say there'll be some mix of domestic and immigrant labor, a fairly high mix, but it'll get done."

Foreign-born workers held one in five construction jobs in 2006.

SOURCE: The Bureau of Labor Statistics and the U.S. Census Bureau


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; fence; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration
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...foreign-born workers held one in five construction jobs in 2006.

Which accounts for the increasingly shoddy workmanship in new construction.

1 posted on 06/03/2008 5:02:28 AM PDT by CWWren
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To: CWWren
"It could happen anywhere in any industry on any given day," Morrissey said.

Everybody is doing it mom, don't get mad at me!

2 posted on 06/03/2008 5:15:10 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: CWWren
I just want the damn fence built. I couldn't care less who builds it. I'll let the Libs and the Intellectuals sit around and worry about irony.
3 posted on 06/03/2008 5:27:53 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (New tag line in progress.)
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To: CWWren
I live in Brownsville and I can assure all that unless the contractors bring labor down from other areas, the "wall" will be built by illegals. That is a bit ironic.
4 posted on 06/03/2008 5:29:44 AM PDT by ImpBill (Hi, My name is Greg and I am a recovering "R"epublican! And I have recovered into a "r"epublican.)
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To: CWWren

Go recruit in Michigan and California - there’s lots of unemployed there. Probably Nevada too.


5 posted on 06/03/2008 5:34:00 AM PDT by nicola_tesla ("Life is Tough... It's Worse When You're Stupid".... John Wayne)
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To: nicola_tesla

Nah; just arrest all the illegals you can find put them on the fence as punishment and then ship their sorry asses back to the other side.


6 posted on 06/03/2008 5:42:43 AM PDT by snowman1
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To: CWWren

Construction on the 1390 mile long Alaska Highway through far more difficult terrain was authorized on February 6, 1942. The highway was completed October 28, 1942.

see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Highway


7 posted on 06/03/2008 5:53:08 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: CWWren

Simple:
1. Enforce immigration laws but arrest instead of shipping back illegal aliens.
2. Offer a “work your way to citizenship” program, where they will build new prisons as well as the wall.
3. After a period of a few years let the good ones in and keep the bad ones in jail.
4. Don’t be surprised when some illegals turn themselves in to enter the program.


8 posted on 06/03/2008 5:53:14 AM PDT by jdsteel (proud member of "Mothers And Children Against Criminal Aliens")
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To: CWWren

I don’t get it. If it needs “immigrant labor,” there is no shortage of illegals who can (should) be arrested and sentenced to some period of hard labor working on the wall before being deported.

In any reasonable society, that would be the just punishment for any foreigner daring to violate the immigration laws of a free and sovereign nation.

But even if you just restricted this punishment to people who commit additional crimes once they enter illegally (such as identity theft), there would still be no shortage.


9 posted on 06/03/2008 5:54:51 AM PDT by Maceman (If you're not getting a tax cut, you're getting a pay cut.)
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To: theBuckwheat

During construction of the US Transcontinental Railroad, when the work was entirely done by hand and draft animal, in areas flat land, track was laid “... at four to six miles per day, in all kinds of weather except for the dead of winter.”

see:
http://www.yeoldeeditor.com/bandsofsteel.htm


10 posted on 06/03/2008 6:03:51 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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...there is no shortage of illegals who can (should) be arrested and sentenced to some period of hard labor working on the wall before being deported.

Bingo!

However, political correctness stands in the way: 'thou shalt not require criminals to work while incarcerated.'

11 posted on 06/03/2008 6:08:45 AM PDT by CWWren (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of congress....but I repeat myself.)
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster

This nation built the Empire State Building in 400 days, 80 years ago! Also the Hoover Dam, Golden Gate Bridge, etc. Now the world’s “last superpower” can’t build a simple FENCE?????? What toro mierda!

If our elites WANTED to build the fence, they’d put 40 different contractors on the job, and give them each 50 miles to build. They’d build in both directions from each start point simultaneously, and it would be done, all 2,00o miles, in a matter of months.

IF they wanted it done. They don’t.


12 posted on 06/03/2008 6:13:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: CWWren

Use the Illegals to build the wall then kick them out after the project is completed.


13 posted on 06/03/2008 6:15:01 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: theBuckwheat
During construction of the US Transcontinental Railroad, when the work was entirely done by hand and draft animal [...]

...using immigrant labor...

14 posted on 06/03/2008 6:15:03 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

SIMPLY LET THEM BUILD FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE WALL AND WALK HOME WHEN FINISHED.


15 posted on 06/03/2008 6:18:23 AM PDT by dirtstiff
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To: CWWren

hire the guys who built the wall in Sadr city....


16 posted on 06/03/2008 6:20:56 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: CWWren
"Eeets done!"


17 posted on 06/03/2008 6:21:07 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: CWWren
"Is it possible to construct a wall without undocumented workers?" asked Perry Vaughn"

[SNIP]

It's probably borderline impossible to be honest with you."

I guess it's kind of like having concentration camp refuges building their own incinerator.

18 posted on 06/03/2008 6:33:51 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: CWWren

“...construction companies in Texas are questioning the feasibility of completing such a project without immigrant labor.”

Immigrants have green cards and are legal. Hire them!! But stay away from the illegal aliens!!


19 posted on 06/03/2008 6:43:34 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: CWWren; RightSideNews; Grimmy; BradyLS; DeLaVerdad; YourAdHere; Be_Politically_Erect; Ultimatum; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


20 posted on 06/03/2008 7:14:13 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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