Was WWII 'the good war'? (Pat Buchanan)

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=60654 ^

[chessplayer]

"Yes, it was a good war," writes Richard Cohen in his column challenging the thesis of pacifist Nicholson Baker in his new book, "Human Smoke," that World War II produced more evil than good.

[chessplayer]

Listened to Buchanan talking about this on tv yesterday. He contends WWII was a monumental mistake for the US and UK.

[kb2614]

And the alternative, Pat???

What a douchebag.

[saganite]

He’ll probably take on the Renaissance next. Bad all the way round for the West. He’s a joke.

[SubMareener]

Apparently, Pat thinks that we would be better off with Hitler to balance Stalin, Tojo to balance Mao Zedong. This scenario would have avoided the creation of the UN, Israel, and the Vietnam War. All of which Pat seems to oppose.

[Cronos]

Listened to Buchanan talking about this on tv yesterday. He contends WWII was a monumental mistake for the US and UK

Yes, Buchanan is correct, if the Brits had not fought the NAzis when they invaded Poland, things would be so much better. You see the Germans would have then absorbed Poland with no problems, liquidated all Poles and Jews. Then, they would have absorbed all of Eastern Europe except Russia into Greater Germany. Then, they would have absorbed all of Western Europe except for Portugal, Spain, Italy, Switzerland and Sweden into Greater Germany. Then, they vud haf smashed the Soviets and established Greater größeres Deutschland.

Dann, sie vud haf conquered der Englanders.

Schließlich, nachdem sie all unteren Menschen beseitight, sie would habe kommen in die Staaten von Amerika und made Die Glorius Deustche Reich to last ein tausend jahrs.

Wunderbar, nichtig?

/sarc


What a first rate idiot PB is - does he really think the Nazis would not have eventually come for the USA?

[chessplayer]

“Were the Founding Fathers Wrong about Foreign Affairs?” (Ron Paul)

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2002/tst041502.htm

[Berlin_Freeper]

[MNJohnnie]

Simple thing for Pat to do. Just ignore all facts about every thing Hitler was doing and planning. Ignore everything Hitler said about what he planned to do. Just cling to a world view that ignores all reality to validate Pat's Hitler worship and isolationist dogmas.

Pat doesn't just write revisionist history, he is writing revisionist fantasy.

[MNJohnnie]

So historical ignorance is a common illness found in Dinocons.

The Founding Fathers dispatches expeditionary forces to fight the Barbary Pirates and fought an Undeclared Naval War with France. Then there the little thing called the War of 1812

Seems Dr Paul should stick to medicine since he is wholly incompetent as a historian.

[ishabibble]

This is exactly the same sort of idiotic thinking as those dhimmis who ride around with the Muslim crescent ‘COEXIST’
bumper stickers on their cars.

It happened, Pat, and we won. Get over it.

[HANG THE EXPENSE]

Damn good.

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

Hey Pat, would you be satisfied if Hitler and Tojo had shaken hands at the Mississippi River?

[Jim Noble]

Hey Pat, would you be satisfied if Hitler and Tojo had shaken hands at the Mississippi River?

I think Pat thinks he would have stopped after taking care of business in Poland and the Ukraine.

[syriacus]

Pat forgets we live in a shrinking world.

Should we have waited for Germany to develop a missile that could strike the US, before we entered the war in Europe?

[melsec]

This is why no-one with half a brain or more can take this idiot seriously - he’s becoming deluded with his own thinking - what a nut job.

[joe fonebone]

pat buchanan is a moron

[CWWren]

American idiots (useful to the left) have stated, in effect, that Iraq is the biggest foreign policy mistake in our history. They say this without any proof whatsoever.

I would ask these idiots if all of our 13 wars which cost over 1 million American lives was sound foreign policy.

Was the Korean War, with 54,000 dead, a smart move?

Was Lyndon Bird's handling of Vietnam brilliant strategy?

Many historians think that Wilson's blundering led us into WW I, and the punitive peace settlement he supported against German led us into WW II. That being the case, Wilson is responsible for our losses in the two World Wars.

[ovrtaxt]

I heard a radio interview with him Friday. I woudl be easy to knee-jerk about this and trash him, but he was right. His point in this book is the parade of STUPID boneheaded moves that the UK took prior to and after WW1 which led up to WW2.

They signed secret treaties with France, IIRC, which the Kaiser knew nothing about, and which would have prevented him from invading France had he known, since he feared Britain and had British blood.

That’s one example. Simply a view of how the 20th century could have been, had a few changes been made in European foreign policy.

Pat wrote a good book, I think. I’m going to buy it and give it a read.

[MNJohnnie]

They signed secret treaties with France

No they did not. They had engaged in talks with the French, had an understanding but even up to the moment the war started, the French were sure the Brits were going to bail on them. There were no such treaties. That is one of Pat's myths

[MNJohnnie]

They signed secret treaties with France, IIRC, which the Kaiser knew nothing about, and which would have prevented him from invading France had he known, since he feared Britain and had British blood

Unfortunately none of that is historically accurate. Britain entered WW 1 because the Germans invaded Belgium which was neutral. Britain had a treaty with Belgium. The Germans knew that would trigger Britain entry to the war but all their military plans required it so they did it then tried to talk the Brits around.