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Texas judge walks off bench; when FLDS children will return is unknown
The Deseret News ^ | 5/30/2008 | Ben Winslow and Nancy Perkins

Posted on 05/30/2008 6:40:22 PM PDT by Utah Girl

The devil was in the details.

Discussions about a proposed order involving the return of children taken from the Fundamentalist LDS Church's YFZ Ranch broke down late this afternoon when attorneys for the families wanted to review proposed changes with their clients.

Judge Barbara Walther announced the attorneys had better get all of their clients' signatures before she would sign the agreement and abruptly left the bench late this afternoon.

A lawyer for the families, Laura Shockley, said she expected attorneys would return to an Austin appeals court Monday to push for an order returning the children. It was the 3rd Court of Appeals that said Walther should not have ordered the children to be removed from the ranch and warned that if Walther failed to act, they would do it for her.

Lawyers for the families said that an agreement had been tentatively reached with Child Protective Services when they walked into court earlier today. Walther, however, expressed concerns about the proposed agreement and called an hourlong recess. She then returned to the bench with her own proposed order.

That led to concerns from many family attorneys who raised objections and questions on behalf of their clients.

The judge added additional restrictions to the the agreement, including psychological evaluations and allowing CPS to do inspections at the children's home at any time. Several of the more than 100 attorneys in the courtroom and patched into the hearing through phone lines objected to the judge's additions.

"The court does not have the power, with all due respect, to enter any other order (other than vacating)," said Julie Balovich of the Texas RioGrande Legal Aid over the telephone. She argued that no evidence justifying the additional restrictions had been entered as evidence before the judge.

After reviewing the appellate court decision, Walther returned to the bench and announced she believed the Supreme Court's decision upholding the appellate court decision gave her the authority to impose whatever conditions she feels are necessary.

"The Supreme Court does say this court can place restrictions on the parents. I do not read that this decision says that this court is required to have another hearing to do that. You may interpret that however you choose."

With that, the judge abruptly left the bench, saying she would await any submitted orders.

Immediately, attorneys in the courtroom and over the phone, expressed confusion.

"What did she say?" one attorney asked.

"Do We have another hearing?"

"What did she order?"

No additional hearings are currently scheduled. The judge signed no orders that would allow for the release of any children.

Lawyers for CPS left the courthouse declining to speak about the hearing.

"I'm going to do what the court directed," said CPS attorney Gary Banks.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cpswatch; flds; imspeechless; judiciary
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I'm sitting here with my mouth hanging open. The judge just leaves?
1 posted on 05/30/2008 6:40:23 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: lady lawyer

This is legal?


2 posted on 05/30/2008 6:40:43 PM PDT by Utah Girl (John 15:12, Matthew 5:44)
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To: Gondring; El Gato

Ping. This is absolutely stunning. Who does this judge think she is?


3 posted on 05/30/2008 6:41:24 PM PDT by Utah Girl (John 15:12, Matthew 5:44)
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To: Utah Girl

The judge doesn’t have to sign off on the order but the kids must be returned or they will be returned by force.


4 posted on 05/30/2008 6:44:40 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Utah Girl

That ignorant witch has been on a power trip since this started. She needs to be removed from this case, and possibly from the bench.


5 posted on 05/30/2008 6:44:49 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Utah Girl

Power corrupts...

She needed to talk to her masters for an hour...


6 posted on 05/30/2008 6:46:45 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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To: lady lawyer

Do they have to go back to the Appellate Court for mandamus, again, or will the presiding judge step in and restore rule of law in his Court?


7 posted on 05/30/2008 6:48:23 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Utah Girl

Bring ‘em Young University, back in business.


8 posted on 05/30/2008 6:50:36 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Barack Obama--the first black Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Utah Girl
Ping. This is absolutely stunning. Who does this judge think she is?

Judge Judy

9 posted on 05/30/2008 6:50:48 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Society is well governed when the people obey the magistrates, and the magistrates obey the law)
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To: AndyJackson

I have no idea what will happen. It sounds like the lawyers for the mothers are going back to the court of appeals. But this witch knows she can torture these people and drag things out for some period of time before anybody can do anything to her. That’s what she’s doing.


10 posted on 05/30/2008 6:51:37 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Utah Girl

Utah Girl: “Who does this judge think she is?”

Like many judges these days, she thinks she’s above the law. If she feels something is or is not done to her satisfaction, she feels she has the right to interpret the law to mean whatever she wants.

I’m no lawyer but it seems to me if a superior courts says you cannot seize the children, you also cannot “legally” resist returning them or set “conditions” for their return.

A judge who would allow CPS to seize that many children without proof of an imminent threat to their safety (which the law requires) isn’t likely someone who follows the law in other ways. In other words, she’s a rogue, activist judge.


11 posted on 05/30/2008 6:51:45 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Republican Who Will NOT Vote McCain!)
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To: Utah Girl
This is legal?

Perhaps not, but it is hardball.

12 posted on 05/30/2008 6:52:09 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Utah Girl

It just means the church will end up owning an even bigger chunk of Texas when it’s all said and done.


13 posted on 05/30/2008 6:52:11 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Utah Girl

***A Texas judge today refused to sign an order returning more than 300 children seized from a polygamist community, saying she wanted the mothers involved to sign the order first.***

http://www.cnn.com/

If they refuse to sign then the Texas SC order still stands and the kids must be returned. No court can force a signature to circumvent a standing order from a higher court.


14 posted on 05/30/2008 6:52:43 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Utah Girl

The stench from the bench. What an arrogant a**hole.


15 posted on 05/30/2008 6:52:55 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Utah Girl

It seems to be a general rule: judges consider themselves above all rule of law and order, absolute tyrants within their courtrooms, royalty in most twisted way possible. Reform is needed - at all levels.


16 posted on 05/30/2008 6:53:29 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Utah Girl

wow


17 posted on 05/30/2008 6:54:40 PM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: Utah Girl
Activists judges need to leave and when they go turn in their papers of resignation.

I don't care which side of the coin anyone is on but this judge is wrong and needs a good reaming out by the State Supreme Court.

18 posted on 05/30/2008 6:57:01 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: Utah Girl

This b*tch is just playing standard “black robed tyrant” games.

She’s been gutted so she decides to act like a child herself.

Not unexpected.


19 posted on 05/30/2008 7:00:42 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: Utah Girl

The judge will face sanctions for defying the Texas Supreme Court.

Rather unclever.


20 posted on 05/30/2008 7:02:52 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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